Help with practice test problem curved rod with charge density?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field vector at point P due to two curved rods with different charge densities. The left rod, a 120° arc with radius R and charge density λ, produces an electric field magnitude of Eλ = λ √(3) / 4∏(ε₀)R, directed as (√3/2 i - 1/2 j). The right rod, a 120° arc with radius 2R and charge density -2λ, requires similar analysis. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding charge density, integration for electric fields, and the role of symmetry in solving such problems.

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  • Understanding of electric field concepts and formulas, specifically E = Kq/r².
  • Familiarity with charge density calculations, including λ = Q/L.
  • Knowledge of vector notation in physics, particularly i (i hat) and j (j hat) components.
  • Basic integration techniques for calculating electric fields from continuous charge distributions.
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  • Study the derivation of electric fields from continuous charge distributions using calculus.
  • Learn about the application of symmetry in electric field calculations.
  • Explore the concept of charge density in different geometries, focusing on curved rods.
  • Review the principles of vector addition in the context of electric fields.
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help with practice test problem! curved rod with charge density??

Two plastic rods are curved. The left rod is a 120° circular arc of radius
R, and has uniform charge density λ. The rod on the right is a 120° circular
arc of radius 2R, and has uniform charge density -2λ. A point P is located at the center of the circular arcs. Use i (i hat), j (j hat) notation in the following, where i is a unit vector that points in the positive x direction.

a) What is the vector Eλ at P due only to the rod with charge density λ?

Solution:
magnitude = Eλ = λ √(3) / 4∏(ε naught)R
Eλ = (λ (√3) / 4∏(ε naught)R) (√3/2 i hat - 1/2 j hat)


What i got for the magnitude:
λ / 4∏(ε naught)r2)
Im having a hard time visualizing the picture. I know I use the Electric field formula Kq/r2. but i don't understand how my teacher got the √3 in the numerator and why its only R instead of R2 in the denominator. Also why is the direction (√3/2 i hat - 1/2 j hat)?

Help please!

i think i might have a better idea. i take the integral from 0 to pi/3. charge density lambda = Q / L. L = 2 pi R/4 ---> charge density lambda = 2Q / pi R?
 
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nchin said:
Two plastic rods are curved. The left rod is a 120° circular arc of radius
R, and has uniform charge density λ. The rod on the right is a 120° circular
arc of radius 2R, and has uniform charge density -2λ. A point P is located at the center of the circular arcs. Use i (i hat), j (j hat) notation in the following, where i is a unit vector that points in the positive x direction.
It would help to know the orientation of the rods with respect to the axes.

And when solving the problem, think of symmetries.
 

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