Help with the conventions used for curl operator

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The discussion centers on understanding the curl operator derivation from the provided MIT link, specifically focusing on the interpretation of equation 3. The confusion arises regarding the signs of the incremental lengths Δy and the rationale behind the line integral being taken as Δz despite the change occurring in the y direction. Clarification is sought on how to determine the signs (+Δy/2 or -Δy/2) and the reasoning for the overall sign of the Ay component. The integration process involves evaluating Ay along the bottom and top of a square, but the participant still struggles with the underlying concepts. The conversation highlights a need for clearer explanations of these mathematical conventions.
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http://web.mit.edu/6.013_book/www/chapter2/2.4.html

I was going through the curl derivation on the above link. How does equation 3 turn out? Δy is the incremental length. But how do you decide whether it is +Δy/2 or -Δy/2. And why is the line integral taken Δz when the change is in the y direction. I am utterly confused :(
 
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ppoonamk said:
http://web.mit.edu/6.013_book/www/chapter2/2.4.html

I was going through the curl derivation on the above link. How does equation 3 turn out? Δy is the incremental length. But how do you decide whether it is +Δy/2 or -Δy/2. And why is the line integral taken Δz when the change is in the y direction. I am utterly confused :(

The component Ay is integrated left-to-right along the bottom of the square (where z = -Δz/2, and y goes from -Δy/2 to +Δy/2), and also along the top of the square from right-to-left.

RGV
 
Sorry I still did not understand you properly :( Please forgive my ignorance about this. What is
+Δy/2 and -Δy/2. Why is the entire Ay compnonent have a 1 sign before it. AT the bottom of the sqyare on the left z is -Δz/2 but the first component of Ay has +Δz/2 term
 
I understood. Thank you :)
 
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