Help with Trig Substitution Integral Problem

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric substitution integral problem, specifically involving the integration of expressions derived from trigonometric identities. Participants are exploring different substitution methods to simplify the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using different substitutions, such as x=asinθ and x=atanθ, to tackle the integral. There is a focus on simplifying the expression cos^2(θ)/sin^2(θ) and questioning the effectiveness of various approaches. Some participants suggest alternative substitutions and identities to aid in simplification.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for alternative methods. There is recognition of the challenges faced in simplifying the integral, and some guidance has been offered regarding trigonometric identities that may assist in the process.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. There is also a mention of a specific integral form that participants are attempting to simplify further.

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I've solved the problem via using x=asinθ where a=1

I've been able to integrate the problem to the point where I get cos^2(θ)/sin^2(θ), but can't seem to find a way to simply the problem further so that I can finish off the integration.

The answer to the question is √3 - π/3
 

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student93 said:

Homework Statement



Question is attached in this post.


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Question is attached in this post.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've solved the problem via using x=atanθ where a=1

I've been able to integrate the problem to the point where I get cos^2(θ)/sin^2(θ), but can't seem to find a way to simply the problem further so that I can finish off the integration.

The answer to the question is √3 - π/3

Please show your steps in detail.
 
student93 said:
I've solved the problem via using x=atanθ where a=1

I've been able to integrate the problem to the point where I get cos^2(θ)/sin^2(θ), but can't seem to find a way to simply the problem further so that I can finish off the integration.

The answer to the question is √3 - π/3

I do not see how x=atanθ would help you in this problem .Instead try x=sinθ or cosθ.
 
Tanya Sharma said:
I do not see how x=atanθ would help you in this problem .Instead try x=sinθ or cosθ.

That was a typo, I actually did use asinθ.
 
Curious3141 said:
Please show your steps in detail.

∫√(1-sin^2(θ))/(sin^2(θ) dθ = ∫cos^2(θ)/sin^2(θ) dθ

(I don't know how to simply the problem further, I know cos^2/sin^2=cot^2, but trying to get the integral of cot^2 isn't practical etc.)
 
student93 said:
That was a typo, I actually did use asinθ.

Okay...Now rewrite cot2θ in terms of cosec2θ .
 
Tanya Sharma said:
Okay...Now rewrite cot2θ in terms of cosec2θ and proceed .

Thanks lol, I completely forgot about that identity since I haven't used that specific one in a long time etc.
 

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