Hermite Polynomial Reccurence Relation

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The discussion revolves around proving the recurrence relation for Hermite polynomials, specifically using Rodrigues' form. Participants are exploring the mathematical properties and relationships of these polynomials.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using induction as a potential method to prove the recurrence relation. There are attempts to express Hermite polynomials in terms of their derivatives and to establish relationships between different orders of the polynomials.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to apply induction, with some participants expressing uncertainty about how to proceed. Guidance has been offered regarding expressing Hermite polynomials in terms of their derivatives, and there is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in completing the proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of using Rodrigues' form and are attempting to derive relationships without making assumptions that could simplify the problem too much. There is a sense of exploration regarding the connections between different polynomial orders.

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Homework Statement


Prove, using Rodrigues form, that Hn+1=2xHn -2nHn-1

Homework Equations


The Rodrigues form for Hermite polynomials is the following:

Hn = (-1)nex2[itex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n}[/itex](e-x2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Hn+1 = (-1)n+1ex2[itex]\frac{d^(n+1)}{dx^(n+1)}[/itex](e-x2)
where [itex]\frac{d^(n+1)}{dx^(n+1)}[/itex](e-x2) means the (n+1)th derivative of e-x2
2xHn = 2x*(-1)nex2[itex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n}[/itex](e-x2)
2nHn-1 = 2n*(-1)n-1ex2[itex]\frac{d^(n-1)}{dx^(n-1)}[/itex](e-x2)
So, Hn+1 - 2xHn + 2nHn-1 should be = 0.
Well,

Hn+1 - 2xHn + 2nHn-1 = (-1)n-1ex2 * [ [itex]\frac{d^(n+1)}{dx^(n+1)}[/itex](e-x2) + 2x * [itex]\frac{d^n}{dx^n}[/itex](e-x2) + 2n * [itex]\frac{d^(n-1)}{dx^(n-1)}[/itex](e-x2) ]

but, I don't really know where to go from there.
 
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If I were you, I would try induction...
 
susskind_leon said:
If I were you, I would try induction...
I've tried, but it doesn't seem to get me anywhere.

Base case n=1: H1+1 = 2xH1 - 2(1)H0 ?
Yep since H2 = 4x2-2 = 2x(2x) - 2

Assume Hk+1 = 2xHk - 2kHk-1
Try to prove Hk+2 = 2xHk+1 - 2(k+1)HkWell, we know Hk+2 = (-1)k+2ex2(dk+2/dxk+2)[e-x2]

So, does Hk+2 = 2xHk+1 - 2(k+1)Hk = (-1)k+2ex2(dk+2/dxk+2)[e-x2] ?
Well, 2xHk+1 - 2(k+1)Hk = 2x(2xHk - 2kHk-1) - 2(k+1)Hk = 4x2Hk - 4xkHk-1 - 2kHk - 2Hk

I don't see how I finish it.
 
Try to express [itex]H_{k+2}[/itex] in terms of [itex]H_{k+1}[/itex], without using any of the assumption. What do you need to do to get from [itex]H_{k+1}[/itex] to [itex]H_{k+2}[/itex]?
 
That's what I've been trying to figure out, what the relationship is between Hk+2 and Hk+1 using only Rodrigues form.
The main thing I can see is that Hk+2 * (n+1)th derivative of e-x2 = -Hk+1 * (n+2)nd derivative of e-x2

I'm sadly lost :(
 
How about [itex]H_{n+1}=- e^{x^2} \frac{d}{dx}[e^{-x^2}H_n][/itex]
Can you use this relation to make the induction step?
 
Ahh I got it I think, thanks!
 

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