The discussion critiques the Zermelo-Fraenkel Axioms with the Axiom of Choice (ZFC) as conceptually incoherent and argues that it undermines Cantor's contributions to set theory. Participants express confusion over ZFC's ability to encapsulate Cantor's work and highlight the limitations of ZFC as a foundational framework for set theory. The conversation touches on the philosophical implications of mathematical Platonism, asserting that ZFC contradicts the existence of abstract mathematical objects independent of human thought. Concerns are raised about the inability to prove the consistency or inconsistency of ZFC, emphasizing that intuitions about sets cannot be formalized. The thread concludes with a recognition of the complexities surrounding the interpretation and application of ZFC in relation to Cantorian sets.