Hints for finding a Galois closure

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The problem involves finding the Galois closure of the field \(\mathbb{Q}(\alpha)\) over \(\mathbb{Q}\), where \(\alpha = \sqrt{1 + \sqrt{2}}\). The context is rooted in field theory and Galois extensions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the minimal polynomial of \(\alpha\) and its irreducibility over the rationals. There is an exploration of the relationship between the splitting field and the Galois closure, with questions about the necessity of including certain elements like \(i\) in the Galois closure.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that finding the splitting field is sufficient for determining the Galois closure, while others question the assumptions regarding the nature of the extension and the inclusion of non-real elements. The discussion reflects a productive exploration of concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the irreducibility of the minimal polynomial and the need to consider conjugates of \(\alpha\) in the context of Galois extensions. Participants also note the lack of explicit examples in their reference materials.

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Homework Statement


Find the Galois closure of the field \mathbb{Q}(\alpha) over \mathbb{Q}, where \alpha = \sqrt{1 + \sqrt{2}}.


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Um...the Galois closure of E over F, where E is a finite separable extension is a Galois extension of F containing E which is minimal.


The Attempt at a Solution


I've found that the minimal polynomial of \alpha is x^{4} - 2x^{2} - 1 (at least I think. I'm having a heck of a time showing it's irreducible over the rationals but I'm willing to just leave that as an exercise for the reader, so to speak), and it's separable, so I know a Galois closure exists. But I can't figure out a good way to generate it.

There are no examples of actually doing this explicitly in the book, though the proof of existence implies that you should take the intersection of all Galois extensions of F containing E. Or would finding explicitly the splitting field of the minimal polynomial be enough in this case? If so, could you guys help me out with that? This is kind of tricky.
 
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Yes, finding the splitting field will be enough. You're just going to throw in the conjugates of \alpha, and that will make your extension normal. Can you guess what they are? One of them is obviously -\alpha. What about the other 2? Considering \alpha^2 will be helpful.
 
I believe the splitting field is just the original extension adjoin i. So that's handy. But it seems like that really shouldn't be the Galois closure. Why would any Galois extension of the rationals that contains \mathbb{Q}(\alpha) have to contain i? It seems like it would only have to be a subset of the reals.
 
There's no reason it should be real at all. Think about it: any normal extension of \mathbb{Q} that contains \alpha will contain the conjugates of \alpha, so the minimal such extension is the one you get by adjoining these elements to \mathbb{Q}(\alpha). And there's nothing saying \alpha can't have non-real conjugates, just because it itself is real.
 
I think I understand... The splitting field is the minimal field that contains all the roots of the minimal polynomial, and anything that's Galois over the rationals contains all the conjugates of \alpha (i.e., the roots of the minimal polynomial). So it contains the splitting field. Thanks!

Edit: Er...Galois over the rationals and contains alpha. Heh.
 

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