Historically, what came first: coulomb unit or ampere unit?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the historical development of the coulomb and ampere units, noting that the first units were not part of the SI system. The ampere was established before the coulomb, which is defined as one ampere-second. At some point in the 19th century, the ampere was redefined to be one-tenth of the "absolute ampere," now known as the abampere, due to its large size. The conversation highlights that retaining the original definition of the ampere would simplify SI unit relationships. Overall, the historical context of these units reveals complexities in their definitions and applications.
HECOLACO
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Historically, what came first: coulomb unit or ampere unit?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
This is a bit murky, because the first charge and current units weren't SI.
If you mean the SI coulomb and ampere, then I believe the ampere was chosen, and then the coulomb defined as 1 amp-sec. At some point, the ampere was chosen to be one tenth of the "absolute ampere" (now called the abampere in the electromagnetic unit system), probably becaause some engineer thought the absolute ampere was too large a unit.
I have been trying myself for some time to find out who and when this change was made. (It was sometime in the 19th century.) SI units would make more sense if if the ampere had been kept equal to the abampere. Then, in cgs, mu0/4pi would equal 1.
 
Thank you for your attention, Meir.
 
This is from Griffiths' Electrodynamics, 3rd edition, page 352. I am trying to calculate the divergence of the Maxwell stress tensor. The tensor is given as ##T_{ij} =\epsilon_0 (E_iE_j-\frac 1 2 \delta_{ij} E^2)+\frac 1 {\mu_0}(B_iB_j-\frac 1 2 \delta_{ij} B^2)##. To make things easier, I just want to focus on the part with the electrical field, i.e. I want to find the divergence of ##E_{ij}=E_iE_j-\frac 1 2 \delta_{ij}E^2##. In matrix form, this tensor should look like this...
Thread 'Applying the Gauss (1835) formula for force between 2 parallel DC currents'
Please can anyone either:- (1) point me to a derivation of the perpendicular force (Fy) between two very long parallel wires carrying steady currents utilising the formula of Gauss for the force F along the line r between 2 charges? Or alternatively (2) point out where I have gone wrong in my method? I am having problems with calculating the direction and magnitude of the force as expected from modern (Biot-Savart-Maxwell-Lorentz) formula. Here is my method and results so far:- This...
Back
Top