Homework help (Force of friction)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the force of friction and its relationship to a body experiencing a force of 10N. Participants are trying to understand the conditions under which the body would move, particularly focusing on the force of friction and the normal force.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between the force of friction and the normal force, questioning the phrasing of the problem and its physical implications. Some are exploring the context of the body’s placement, such as whether it is against a wall or on a surface.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the problem's wording and assumptions, with some participants expressing confusion about the task's clarity and logical consistency. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of forces, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential technical mistakes in the problem statement as presented in the textbook, which may contribute to the confusion surrounding the definitions and relationships of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move



2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!
 
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-Physician said:

Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move



2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!


Where is this body? is it being pinned to a vertical wall with a horizontal force or are you trying to push it across a surface?
 
That's what the task says
 
-Physician said:

Homework Statement


We have a body with force ##F=10N##. Now we know Force of friction makes the body not move if the Force of friction ##F_f## is higher than the normal force ##F_n##, so what force of friction do we have to depress to make the body move

2. The attempt at a solution
We know that the force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the solution would be:

##F_f ≤ 10N##

Am I right? Thanks!
In general the normal force is perpendicular to the surface, and the force of friction is parallel to the surface, so this question appears to make no sense!

What is the context of this question?

Where did you find it?

Who gave it to you?

Where did that person find it?
 
It's my teacher's homework ..., she found it from the book, and the task says:

The body has force ##F=10N##. What force of friction ##F_f## do we have to depress to make the body move. Remind:
The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move.

This is the exact text that is written on the book.
 
-Physician said:
It's my teacher's homework ..., she found it from the book, and the task says:

The body has force ##F=10N##. What force of friction ##F_f## do we have to depress to make the body move. Remind:
The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move.

This is the exact text that is written on the book.

Well that might be what is written, but it still makes no sense at all.

Breaking down what you have written:

"The body has force ##F=10N##" .
Now if the body had a weight of 10N it would have more meaning.


"What force of friction do we have to depress ... "
If that had read "What force of friction do we have to oppose ... " we would be part way to a logical situation.

"The force of friction ##F_f## has to be lower or equal to normal force ##F_n##, so the body can move".

Not quite sure what that might mean?
 
That's what is written on book, maybe they're technical mistakes?
 

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