Hooke's Law and Work Energy THeorem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a sled being propelled by a compressed spring on a frictionless surface, with specific focus on calculating the sled's speed at different points of spring compression using the Work Energy Theorem and principles of energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Work Energy Theorem and conservation of energy, questioning the validity of their approaches in different scenarios of spring compression.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the energy transformations involved, with some participants seeking clarification on the application of potential and kinetic energy concepts. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being examined, particularly regarding the conditions under which energy conservation applies.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of frictionless conditions and the specifics of energy conversion in the context of the problem. There is a noted discrepancy between individual calculations and textbook answers, prompting further inquiry into the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement



At a waterpark, sleds with riders are sent along a slippery,
horizontal surface by the release of a large compressed spring. The
spring with force constant and negligible mass
rests on the frictionless horizontal surface. One end is in contact
with a stationary wall. A sled and rider with total mass 70.0 kg are
pushed against the other end, compressing the spring 0.375 m. The
sled is then released with zero initial velocity. What is the sled’s
speed when the spring (a) returns to its uncompressed length and
(b) is still compressed 0.200 m?

Homework Equations



Using Work Energy THeorem


The Attempt at a Solution



For part b) I attemted the equation ... .5 K (x)^2 = 0.5 m (v^2) and i got an answer of 1.5 but the book attempt was different... they used it with the x of A and got the answer of 2.4 m/s ... What my problem?? Kindly Clarify... THANKS A LOT!
 
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ehabmozart said:
For part b) I attemted the equation ... .5 K (x)^2 = 0.5 m (v^2)
Use conservation of energy. What's the total energy at any point?

(Setting PE = KE only works in certain cases--such as when all the PE is converted to KE.)
 
But i applied it in the first case, and i got the correct answer?.. I mean what's wrong with the approach as long as there isn't any friction or resistance??
 
ehabmozart said:
But i applied it in the first case, and i got the correct answer?.. I mean what's wrong with the approach as long as there isn't any friction or resistance??
It applied in the first case because all the PE was transformed to KE.

Conservation of energy will apply in all cases.

Starting point: Spring fully compressed. What's the spring PE? What's the KE? What's the total energy?

Ending point: Spring compressed by some amount. What's the spring PE? What's the KE? What's the total energy?
 
Allright, can u clarify it using work energy thorem without referring to potential energy...
 
ehabmozart said:
Allright, can u clarify it using work energy thorem without referring to potential energy...
Work done by the spring = ΔKE of the mass.
 
Great... So work done by force spring to move to the 0.2 is integral of fx dx from 0 to 0.2 which must equalise the difference in kinetic energy where k initial is zero?
 
ehabmozart said:
Great... So work done by force spring to move to the 0.2 is integral of fx dx from 0 to 0.2 which must equalise the difference in kinetic energy where k initial is zero?
Almost. The spring moves from x = 0.375 to 0.2 .
 

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