How are 2D electrostatic modules approximated in COMSOL?

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The discussion focuses on the assumptions and approximations made in 2D electrostatic modules within COMSOL, particularly regarding the treatment of the third dimension and the implications for solving the 2D Poisson's equation with point sources.

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  • One participant questions the assumptions made in 2D electrostatic modules, specifically regarding the solution of the 2D Poisson's equation with point sources, asking whether it relies on a 1/r potential or a logarithmic potential.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculation represents a 2D slice of a uniform model in the z direction, implying an extension to infinity in that direction.
  • A later reply reiterates the previous point about the 2D slice representation and seeks documentation to support this understanding.
  • Documentation from the AC/DC Module User's Guide is referenced, explaining that 2D modeling typically assumes no variation in the third dimension and mathematically extends the geometry to infinity along the z-axis.

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Participants express some agreement on the notion that 2D models represent a slice of a 3D geometry, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the assumptions regarding potential solutions or the implications of these approximations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of 2D modeling, particularly the assumption of uniformity along the z-axis and the mathematical treatment of boundaries in relation to the third dimension.

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In 2D modules, the 3rd direction isn't shown in model settings. What assumptions are made regarding electrostatics 2D modules?
For example, how is a 2D Poisson's equation with point sources solved? Is it based on a 1/r potential or a log potential?
 
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It is my understanding that the calculation represents a 2D slice of a uniform model in the z direction, as if it ws extending to infinity.
 
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DrClaude said:
It is my understanding that the calculation represents a 2D slice of a uniform model in the z direction, as if it ws extending to infinity.
Is there anywhere I can find the documentation about this?
 
Pages 64-65 of the AC/DC Module User's Guide (for version 5.4, available here):
The following is a guide through some of the common approximations made for 2D problems. Remember that modeling in 2D usually represents some 3D geometry under the assumption that nothing changes in the third dimension.
Cartesian Coordinates
In this case you view a cross section in the xy-plane of the actual 3D geometry. The geometry is mathematically extended to infinity in both directions along the z-axis, assuming no variation along that axis. All the total flows in and out of boundaries are per unit length along the z-axis.
 
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