How Are Irreducible Representations of O(3) and SO(3) Derived from SU(2)?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of irreducible representations of the groups O(3) and SO(3) from the irreducible representations of SU(2). Participants are exploring the mathematical relationships and mappings between these groups.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the implications of a two-one homomorphic mapping from SU(2) to SO(3) and questions how this relates to shared representations. Other participants inquire about the definition of a group representation and discuss isomorphisms relevant to the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing mathematical insights and references to literature. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in deriving representations of O(3) from those of SO(3) and SU(2), but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the derivation process.

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There is an acknowledgment of the existence of numerous resources discussing the connections between SO(3) and SU(2), but fewer that address the computation of all representations of O(3) derived from SO(3).

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Homework Statement



How can irreducible representations of O(3) and SO(3) be determined from the irreducible representations of SU(2)?

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe there is a two-one homomorphic mapping from SU(2) to SO(3); is that enough for some shared representations? If I had an idea of *why* irreducible reps. can determined for O(3) and SO(3) from SU(2), I might have a better notion of *how* to go about proving it.

Cheers!
 
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Mathematically, what is a representation of a group G?
 
George Jones said:
Mathematically, what is a representation of a group G?

Typically a matrix, I believe, for which [tex]\Gamma(T_{1}T_{2}) = \Gamma(T_{1})\Gamma(T_{2})[/tex] holds, where [tex]T_{1}, T_{2}[/tex] belong to [tex]G[/tex]
 
There are 2 isomorphisms you need to use:

[tex]\mbox{SO(3)}\simeq\frac{\mbox{SU(2)}}{\mathbb{Z}_{2}}[/tex]

and

[tex]\mbox{O(3)} = \mbox{SO(3)} \times \{-1_{3\times 3}, 1_{3\times 3} \}[/tex]

There are at least 50 books or so discussing the connection b/w SO(3) and SU(2), however there are many less computing all representations of O(3) starting from the ones of SO(3) deducted from the ones of SU(2).
 
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bigubau said:
There are 2 isomorphisms you need to use:

[tex]\mbox{SO(3)}\simeq\frac{\mbox{SU(2)}}{\mathbb{Z}_{2}}[/tex]

and

[tex]\mbox{O(3)} = \mbox{SO(3)} \times \{-1_{3\times 3}, 1_{3\times 3} \}[/tex]

There are at least 50 books or so discussing the connection b/w SO(3) and SU(2), however there are many less computing all representations of O(3) starting from the ones of SO(3) deducted from the ones of SU(2).


Thank you very much for your answer. I understand the second statement, but what exactly are you doing in the first - simply slicing off the complex aspect by mathematical fiat?

Cheers :)
 

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