How Are Limits of Integration Derived for Double Integrals Over Complex Regions?

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The discussion revolves around expressing a double integral in terms of iterated integrals for the region between the parabolas defined by the equations y = x² and y = 6 - 4x - x². Participants are exploring the limits of integration and the algebraic manipulations required to derive them.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to derive the upper limit of integration, specifically the expression x = -2 ± (10 - y)^(1/2). There are questions about rearranging the given equations to obtain this limit. Some participants are also discussing the need to break the integral into separate parts based on the graph of the region.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing suggestions for rearranging equations and emphasizing the importance of graphing the functions involved. There is recognition of the need to split the integral into multiple parts based on the behavior of the functions, although explicit consensus on the approach has not been reached.

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Participants note challenges in visualizing the graph and understanding the points of intersection, which are critical for determining the limits of integration. There is also mention of using LaTeX for writing integrals, indicating a focus on proper mathematical notation.

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For the following regions in R2 express the double integral in terms of iterated integrals in two different ways:

S = the region between the parabolas y = x2 and y = 6 - 4x -x2


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Ok I got everything except one limit of integration in regards to the order dx dy of integration:

for an upper limit of integration the solution said: x = -2 ± (10 - y )1/2. my question is how do they obtain that limit of integration. It's probably more of an algebraic question than calculus.

Also how do you write integrals with iTex code?
 
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look at the equations you have been given. Can you think of how to rearrange one of them to get the limit?

Also, for more information on latex: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=617567 Or google might help. I think I remember the way to write the integral sign is \int
 
BruceW said:
look at the equations you have been given. Can you think of how to rearrange one of them to get the limit?

Also, for more information on latex: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=617567 Or google might help. I think I remember the way to write the integral sign is \int



That's exactly my problem I can't see how to rearrange them to obtain that solution.
 
Integrating with respect to x should be straightforward. Looking at a graph indicates that, integrating with respect to y you will need to break this into three separate integrals, from y= 0 to y= 1, from y= 1 to y= 9, and from y= 9 to y= 10. Do you see why?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Integrating with respect to x should be straightforward. Looking at a graph indicates that, integrating with respect to y you will need to break this into three separate integrals, from y= 0 to y= 1, from y= 1 to y= 9, and from y= 9 to y= 10. Do you see why?



I do somewhat see why, well what I mean by that is I understand exactly the reason for splittiing it up, I think the way I drew the graph doesn't illustrate that. But it is solving for the exact x value that I specified in my first post. I tried to work it backwards and couldn't get anything related to what I have.
 
You can do it. Get y=6-4x-x2 so that x is the subject of the equation. Also, it is important to draw out the graph, and algebraically work out the points of intersection.
 

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