How Can I Calculate Arc Length Without a Calculator?

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The discussion revolves around calculating arc length using an integral without the aid of a calculator. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning involved in simplifying the integrand and addressing potential errors in their calculations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integrand and its simplification, questioning the accuracy of their calculations and the grouping of terms under the radical. There are attempts to identify perfect squares and to clarify misunderstandings regarding the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the simplification of the integrand. Some have identified errors in calculations, while others are guiding the conversation towards recognizing perfect squares in the expression. There is no explicit consensus, but the dialogue is constructive.

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Participants are constrained by the requirement not to use a graphing calculator, which adds to the complexity of the problem-solving process.

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How in gods name do I do that? I attempted that integral and... it just can't be integrated!

What I tried:
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That doesn't help one bit... How do I do this? NOTE: No graphing calculator is to be used.
 
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You have as the integrand
[tex]\sqrt{1 + (x - 1/(4x))^2}[/tex]
[tex]= \sqrt{1 + (x^2 - 1/2 + 1/16x^2)}[/tex]

When you group together the only terms that can be grouped, you'll have a perfect square under the radical.
 
when you squared out the (x-x/4)^2 you should have got 1/2 not 3/2. this should simplify things hopefully cause you should be able to factorise the numerator into
sqrt[(4x^2+1)^2]
 
Mark44 said:
You have as the integrand
[tex]\sqrt{1 + (x - 1/(4x))^2}[/tex]
[tex]= \sqrt{1 + (x^2 - 1/2 + 1/16x^2)}[/tex]

When you group together the only terms that can be grouped, you'll have a perfect square under the radical.

Yes that gives me:
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However, what good is that, since there's still a 1 in there? I can't squareroot it to simplify...

latentcorpse said:
when you squared out the (x-x/4)^2 you should have got 1/2 not 3/2. this should simplify things hopefully cause you should be able to factorise the numerator into
sqrt[(4x^2+1)^2]

You do get 1/2, but I added a 1, therefore 3/2.
 
Mark44 said:
You have as the integrand
[tex]\sqrt{1 + (x - 1/(4x))^2}[/tex]
[tex]= \sqrt{1 + (x^2 - 1/2 + 1/16x^2)}[/tex]

When you group together the only terms that can be grouped, you'll have a perfect square under the radical.

Continuing from this point...
[tex]= \sqrt{x^2 + 1/2 + 1/16x^2}[/tex]
The part under the radical is a perfect square. Surely you can take it from here!
 
OH... I added wrong... wow... Stupid mistakes FTL... Thanks all!
 

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