How Can I Design a BLDC Motor with 300W Power, 24V Voltage, and 40 Nm Torque?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the design of a brushless DC (BLDC) motor with specific requirements: 300W power, 24V voltage, 40 Nm torque, and 180 RPM. Participants explore the feasibility of these specifications and the complexities involved in the design process.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Sunil outlines the design requirements for a BLDC motor and seeks guidance on determining the number of poles, teeth, windings, wire diameter, and magnet dimensions.
  • Bob S argues that achieving 40 Nm torque at 180 RPM would require approximately 750 watts of output power, suggesting that a 300 watt motor would be inadequate for the task.
  • Sunil acknowledges the challenges and expresses a desire to pursue the design despite the difficulties, asking for next steps if the power requirement is adjusted to 750W.
  • Bob S questions the necessity of maintaining 180 RPM at 40 Nm and suggests that a higher RPM, such as 2500 RPM, might be more feasible, potentially requiring a gearbox.
  • Bob S recommends consulting with electric motor engineers for further assistance in the design process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the feasibility of the initial design specifications, with Bob S emphasizing the inadequacy of a 300W motor for the stated torque and RPM, while Sunil remains determined to explore the design possibilities.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the required RPM and torque relationship, as well as the implications of using a gearbox. The discussion does not clarify the specific design constraints or the potential trade-offs involved in the motor design.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in motor design, particularly in the context of brushless DC motors, as well as those exploring the challenges of achieving specific performance metrics in engineering applications.

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Hi,

could someone guide me through the steps of how I would go about designing a bldc motor, knowing only the following requirements;

a) Power 300W
b) voltage 24V
c) Torque 40 Nm
d) RPM 180
e) Max external dia = 254mm
f) Max length = 90 mm

So now I need to know;
1) How many poles do I need? and why?
2) How many teeth? and why?
3) How many windings? and why?
4) Of what diameter wire? and why?
5) What dimension magnets? and why?

Would much appreciate if you can get me started.
I'm sure I can take it from there
Thanks

Sunil
 
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Hello Sunil-
This will be very difficult design. 40Nm torque at 180 RPM is about 750 watts (1 HP) output power. A 300 watt motor will not be adequate.
Brushless dc motors are very difficult motors to design. I suggest you buy a commercial gearmotor.
Bob S
 
Bob S said:
Hello Sunil-
This will be very difficult design. 40Nm torque at 180 RPM is about 750 watts (1 HP) output power. A 300 watt motor will not be adequate.
Brushless dc motors are very difficult motors to design. I suggest you buy a commercial gearmotor.
Bob S

Thanks bob,

We are currently using a commercial gear motor. It is heavy, clunky and inefficient.
Also it dictates much of the design because of it's size.

I realize that it's not an easy undertaking, but I feel that I have to try.

So,
if my power has to be 750W, what's the next step?
 
Hi Sunil-
Check that you really need 180 RPM at 40 Nm = 750 watts = 1 HP
I suspect that your motor will have to run at maybe 2500 RPM to minimize torque (and motor size) at 1 HP, so you will have a roughly 15:1 gearbox.
I suggest talking to Bodine Electric Motor engineers, and maybe DD Electric Motor (ddmotorsystems.com).
Bob S.
 

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