How can I improve my ability to work with proofs?

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The discussion centers around improving skills in mathematical proofs, particularly in the context of an upcoming discrete mathematics course for computer science students. Participants explore resources, methods, and personal experiences related to learning proofs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to improve their proof skills and seeks recommendations for books or courses.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the specific weaknesses in proof skills, suggesting gaps in logic or confusion between sufficiency and necessity.
  • Several books are recommended, including "How to Read and Do Proofs" by Daniel Solow and "The Nuts and Bolts of Proofs" by Antonella Cupillari.
  • A method involving constructing counterexamples to understand proofs is suggested by one participant.
  • Another participant mentions the value of working backwards from what needs to be proved, noting that this approach may only be effective in certain cases.
  • One participant shares their experience with an introductory MOOC on predicate logic and proofs, questioning whether it would be suitable for the original poster based on their background.
  • The original poster indicates limited prior study in mathematics, mentioning only calculus and linear algebra.

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Participants generally agree on the need for resources and methods to improve proof skills, but there is no consensus on the specific weaknesses or the most effective approaches to take.

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Participants express varying levels of experience and familiarity with mathematical concepts, which may influence the recommendations and methods discussed.

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I'm a CS student and I'm about to take discrete mathematics next two semesters. My proofs are very weak and I want to change this. (I'm told discrete math is a lot of proofs.)

Are there any books/courses/resources to help me work my way up? I have a summer to prepare for.
 
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Arnoldjavs3 said:
I'm a CS student and I'm about to take discrete mathematics next two semesters. My proofs are very weak and I want to change this. (I'm told discrete math is a lot of proofs.)

Are there any books/courses/resources to help me work my way up? I have a summer to prepare for.
In what way are you weak on proofs? Are there gaps in the logic? Are you unable to see how to prove something? Do you confuse sufficiency with necessity? Or...?
 
Here are a couple of books I have that might be helpful to you.
"How to Read and Do Proofs, 2nd Ed." -- Daniel Solow, ISBN 0-471-51004-1
"The Nuts and Bolts of Proofs" -- Antonella Cupillari, ISBN 0-534-10320-0
 
haruspex said:
In what way are you weak on proofs? Are there gaps in the logic? Are you unable to see how to prove something? Do you confuse sufficiency with necessity? Or...?
Not knowing where to begin. How to make proper use of information that they already give me.

Mark44 said:
Here are a couple of books I have that might be helpful to you.
"How to Read and Do Proofs, 2nd Ed." -- Daniel Solow, ISBN 0-471-51004-1
"The Nuts and Bolts of Proofs" -- Antonella Cupillari, ISBN 0-534-10320-0

Thanks, I'll look into it.
 
Arnoldjavs3 said:
Not knowing where to begin. How to make proper use of information that they already give me.
A method I often used to was to try to construct a counterexample, i.e. disprove the thing to be proved. It can shed light on why the given facts prevent such a counterexample.

Sometimes it is easier to work back from what is to be proved, but generally that only works for if-and-only-if.

In a formula to be proved, the structure of the formula can give hints. E.g. if the answer has arcsin in it, it suggests a trig substitution in the method.
 
Arnoldjavs3 said:
My proofs are very weak and I want to change this. (I'm told discrete math is a lot of proofs.) Are there any books/courses/resources to help me work my way up?

You haven't said what you've actually studied in this area. If you can be specific, that might help people give you more precise recommendations.

For example, I recently took a popular introductory-level MOOC on predicate logic & proofs, via Stanford University - Introduction to Mathematical Thinking - and enjoyed it. But I can't tell from what you've said so far if this would be appropriate for you, or whether it would be too elementary.
 
UsableThought said:
You haven't said what you've actually studied in this area. If you can be specific, that might help people give you more precise recommendations.

For example, I recently took a popular introductory-level MOOC on predicate logic & proofs, via Stanford University - Introduction to Mathematical Thinking - and enjoyed it. But I can't tell from what you've said so far if this would be appropriate for you, or whether it would be too elementary.

Aside from calculus 1, linear algebra i haven't taken any maths. Or atleast not anymore that I can recall.
 

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