How can I integrate (e^7x)/(e^(14x) + 9)dx using u-substitution?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the expression (e^7x)/(e^(14x) + 9)dx, focusing on the application of u-substitution techniques in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts various substitutions, including u=7x and u=e^7x, but struggles to find a successful approach. Some participants suggest using u=e^7x and question how to proceed from there. Others express confusion about integrating expressions involving e and the specific form of the integrand.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different substitution methods and discussing the challenges associated with integrating the resulting expressions. There is a mix of attempts and hints provided, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive solution.

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Some participants express frustration over the complexity of the integration process and the specific forms of integrals they are expected to know. There are references to integral forms that may not have been covered in earlier coursework, indicating a gap in prior knowledge.

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Homework Statement


So, I have to integrate the following expression:
(e^7x)/(e^(14x) + 9)dx


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We are doing the section on 'integrating by u-substitution' right now, so that might help in finding a solution...



The Attempt at a Solution


So, I tried a bunch of stuff - I tried u=7x, u=e^7x, u=14x, u=e^14x, u=x, etc. etc. and I can't get the right answer! I have been working on this problem for over an hour and am on the verge of tears!
 
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Hint: e14x=(e7x)2
 
I know that.. but how do I work from there?
The problem with "e" is that its derivative is different than integrating something like x^2
 
But you can use a subsitution: use, say, u=e^{7x}
 
How??
I tried that million times and I couldn't get the right answer!
Here's what I tried

u=e^7x
du=(7e^7x)dx

so then the integrand (that's what the thing being integrated is called, right?)
becomes
(u/(u^2 + 9))*du/(7e^7x)

that doesn't work!
 
jrmed13 said:
How??
I tried that million times and I couldn't get the right answer!
Here's what I tried

u=e^7x (#)
du=(7e^7x)dx

so then the integrand (that's what the thing being integrated is called, right?)
becomes
(u/(u^2 + 9))*du/(7e^7x)

that doesn't work!

Can you simplify the line in bold (perhaps using (#)?)

And yes, the thing being integrated is called the integrand :smile:
 
sorry for my constant refrain of complaining, but I already tried that and couldn't figure out how to integrate (u^2 + 9)^-1...

I know it involves something with ln(u^2 + 9), but I couldn't get that to work either!
 
jrmed13 said:
sorry for my constant refrain of complaining, but I already tried that and couldn't figure out how to integrate (u^2 + 9)^-1...

Oh, ok, well I can see why you're banging your head against a brick wall then! Integrals like [tex]\int\frac{dx}{1+x^2}[/tex] are ones you should really know (especially for exams etc..) but in essence most people just look them up. The way to solve this, however, would be to make a final substitution x=tany.
 
Wait, what?
I don't follow - I have never seen that before in Calculus I (I'm in Calc. II right now)

And what about the 9??
That derivative is for x^2 + 1, not x^2 + 9
 
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I mean that integral instead of derivative
 
  • #11
Oh waiiiiiit never mind I found it in my reference page (integral of du/(x^2 + a^2) = blahblah.

Cristo, thank you so much - you are amaaaaaaaaaazing and although I did cry over this problem for about ninety minutes, I have learned a bunch and I am going to memorize some of these integrals involving u^2-a^2 and u^2+a^2, etc. that we didn't cover in AP Calc with flashcards.

Thanks again!
 
  • #12
Glad I could help.

In case you're interested, the way to transform x^2+9 into the above form is to make a substitution of the form v=x/3, which will give 9(v^2-1). Then use v=tany So, you can solve this problem using around 4 different substitutions in succession.
 

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