How Can I Make an Electrical Connection with One Rotating Wire?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of creating an electrical connection where one wire is stationary and the other is allowed to rotate. Participants explore various solutions, including mechanical components and existing technologies, while addressing the specific requirements of the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using conductive bearings and expresses uncertainty about where to find suitable options.
  • Another participant references slip rings and rotary transformers as potential solutions.
  • Some participants differentiate between using split rings for DC supply and slip rings for AC supply.
  • A suggestion is made to repurpose brushes and rings from an automotive alternator for voltages under 48V.
  • One participant recommends looking into Mercotac for various slip ring connectors and mentions their use in Leslie loudspeakers.
  • Another participant encourages examining old car alternators to understand slip rings and brushes better.
  • A participant questions the need to "reinvent the wheel" in engineering, arguing that building on existing solutions is a common practice.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of the "reinvent the wheel" remark, with some participants feeling it was unnecessary and dismissive.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the proposed use of conductive bearings, questioning the configuration of the stationary and rotating wires.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and suggestions without reaching a consensus on a single solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the specifics of the proposed solutions, such as the configuration of the conductive bearings and the voltage limitations for using automotive components.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrical engineering, particularly those dealing with rotating electrical connections or seeking practical solutions for similar challenges.

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I don't have extensive knowledge of electrical engineering so I need a little help.

I want to make an electrical connection, but with one small hurdle. One wire must be stationary, and the other must be allowed to rotate. How would you guys go about solving this problem?

My first thought was some sort of bearing. I've done a little research and found that there are some conductive bearings out there, but I would have no idea where to find a good one. Does anybody have any insight on this type of thing?

Also, if anybody has other ideas, please teach me!
 
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based on what type of connection you are using this can be split ring (dc supply) or slip ring (ac supply)
 
If the voltage is less than 48V then you could make your slip rings from the brushes and rings of a disused automotive alternator.
 
Hello kld15

Google "Mercotac" They have all kinds of slip ring type connectors.
The Leslie loudspeaker company used connectors like that to connect their rotating loudspeakers.

Somewhere I've seen a low cost rotatable connector for telephone cables, to prevent twisting.



Ralf
 
Take apart an old car alternator and study the slip=rings & brushes.

Don't re-invent the wheel - it's no shame to copy and adapt to your needs.
 
About reinventing the wheel

jim hardy said:
Don't re-invent the wheel

Remarks like that always get to me.
I looked at all the posts and no one seems to suggest to reinvent anything.
Every time I heard that remark in the past, it was used as a put-down.

Besides, the invention of the wheel wasn't that great of an achievement until someone cut its corners off.

Ralf
 
Trackmann said:
Remarks like that always get to me...

Ralf

But that has nothing to do with the op's question, which was:
How would you guys go about solving this problem?
 
kld15 said:
I don't have extensive knowledge of electrical engineering so I need a little help.

I want to make an electrical connection, but with one small hurdle. One wire must be stationary, and the other must be allowed to rotate. How would you guys go about solving this problem?

My first thought was some sort of bearing. I've done a little research and found that there are some conductive bearings out there, but I would have no idea where to find a good one. Does anybody have any insight on this type of thing?

Also, if anybody has other ideas, please teach me!
Most steel ball bearings are conductive. I have some problems imagine your idea. Is it so that the stationary wire is connected to the center of this bearing while the rotating wires are connected to the outer part of the same bearing, and looped back somehow to the other end of the stationary wire?

Vidar
 
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Trackmann said:
Remarks like that always get to me.
I looked at all the posts and no one seems to suggest to reinvent anything.
Every time I heard that remark in the past, it was used as a put-down.

Besides, the invention of the wheel wasn't that great of an achievement until someone cut its corners off.

Ralf

Why? This time it was made 'helpfully'(as is normal for Jim :approve:) so there is no need for offence - and even less for vicarious offence). Start from where others have left off and, if by then, you have become an expert, you may improve on things. Engineering very seldom starts from square one - it's not an intuitive subject and relies on experience and incremental advances.
 
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