How can I understand valence bond theory and VSEPR theory?

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The discussion revolves around understanding valence bond theory and VSEPR theory, focusing on the challenges of grasping these concepts and the resources available for learning. Participants share their experiences and suggest approaches to improve comprehension.

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  • One participant expresses frustration with existing resources, stating they lack the intuition needed to understand valence bond theory and VSEPR theory, and seeks recommendations for better channels.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of personal effort in learning, suggesting that simply watching videos is insufficient without deeper engagement and mental effort.
  • A later reply reiterates the need for summarizing learned material and practicing problems to solidify understanding, indicating that time spent does not equate to effective learning.
  • Participants mention specific resources like Khan Academy and 3blue1brown, but there is no consensus on the best approach or resource for understanding the theories.

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Participants generally agree on the necessity of personal effort in learning but disagree on the effectiveness of various resources and methods for understanding the theories. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best strategies for comprehension.

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Participants express varying levels of frustration and acceptance of their learning challenges, indicating that their understanding may depend on personal effort and the ability to engage with the material actively. There are references to specific learning strategies, but no consensus on their effectiveness.

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I think these theory is made to match the experimental results because I watched videos from Khan academy, jg e.t.c all of them teaching in video is that how do we calculate hybridisation, sigma bonds, π bonds e.t.c and to me these these sources are best because most of the times they gives intuition but now in teaching these topic they are not giving intuition of the topics of valence bond theory,VSEPR e.t.c. can you please tell me how can I understand these to topics
 
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How can I understand valence bond theory and VSEPR theory

Work at it. And by "work" I mean "work harder than you have shown on other topics".

In the past, when people answer your question, you often immediately say you don't understand. It takes more time and effort than that. You have to put in the effort; we can't do it for you.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Work at it. And by "work" I mean "work harder than you have shown on other topics".

In the past, when people answer your question, you often immediately say you don't understand. It takes more time and effort than that. You have to put in the effort; we can't do it for you.
Sorry,
I now try to put more effort than earlier and will do more and more hardwork to succeed my goals.
But sometimes I got to much irritated and somehow sub consciously accept that I will not able to understand that topic than even after getting answer I think that I will not understand from that answer But now I ponder about the topics and get the point.
Now this time I posted this because the resources from which I study can't get that intuition that I got earlier so I posted this so I can know some other channels like 3blue1brown,Khan academy from experienced people like you but now I think I should keep studying from these channels because as you said I should put more effort myself not from the help of others. So I will try to build my concepts stronger on my own rather than help of any other resources.

Thanks

Hemant.
 
Hemant said:
Now this time I posted this because the resources from which I study can't get that intuition that I got earlier so I posted this so I can know some other channels like 3blue1brown,Khan academy from experienced people like you but now I think I should keep studying from these channels because as you said I should put more effort myself not from the help of others.
http://www.ilectureonline.com/lectures/subject/CHEMISTRY/12
 
Hemant said:
Sorry,
I now try to put more effort than earlier and will do more and more hardwork to succeed my goals.
But sometimes I got to much irritated and somehow sub consciously accept that I will not able to understand that topic than even after getting answer I think that I will not understand from that answer But now I ponder about the topics and get the point.
Now this time I posted this because the resources from which I study can't get that intuition that I got earlier so I posted this so I can know some other channels like 3blue1brown,Khan academy from experienced people like you but now I think I should keep studying from these channels because as you said I should put more effort myself not from the help of others. So I will try to build my concepts stronger on my own rather than help of any other resources.

Thanks

Hemant.
You should be aware that putting the time into something is not the same as hard work. Watching a few videos is fine to get a general awareness of something or maybe even your answer. But, often you must feel like you are putting in mental effort.

Whether a text or video you should try to summarize what you are learning. If you can't then you didn't learn it. When I was studying theorems and concepts, I used to copy my notes so that they were briefer and briefer. But, also for something like VSEPR you will then to work at many problems. Go away for a while come back and try the problems again.
 
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