How can I verify calculated heat loss?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around verifying calculated heat loss in a room, focusing on the methodology for measuring actual heat loss compared to theoretical calculations. It includes considerations of experimental approaches and theoretical models related to heat transfer.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their method for calculating heat loss using the equation Q=Ʃ(UAΔT) and seeks advice on measuring actual heat loss.
  • Another participant confirms that monitoring temperature changes after switching off heating is a valid approach for conducting a heat loss experiment.
  • A different participant suggests that the rate of heat loss is exponential and depends on current temperature, indicating that the initial calculations assume a constant internal temperature.
  • There is a proposal to use a heating element of known power in a controlled environment to measure temperature changes over time, which could provide experimental data for comparison.
  • One participant mentions using theoretical models for air to approximate heat loss and suggests that direct measurement of energy input from heaters could verify the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of measuring temperature changes to assess heat loss, but there are differing views on the best methods and models to use for accurate verification.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the assumptions behind their calculations and the applicability of different models for heat loss. There is also mention of the need for curve-fitting in experimental data analysis.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in experimental physics, thermodynamics, or those involved in building energy efficiency assessments.

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Hi all,

I have calculated the expected heat loss (fabric not ventilation) of a room in a house using Q=Ʃ(UAΔT) for each building element (window, door, wall, ceiling etc) making the room. The units are Watts.

How can I measure the actual observed heat loss of the room? I am currently monitoring the internal room air temerature and the external air temerature. Shouldn't I be able to calculate the heat loss after switching the heating off and observing the rate of temerature decrease? Obviously I need the figure in Watts to compare against the calculated heat loss.

Thanks in advance...
 
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Yep - Pretty much how you'd do any heat loss experiment.
 
Thanks for the reply but I was hoping for an equation to plug my temperature readings into...
 
You don't have a model for heat loss?

The rate of heat loss depends on the current temperature, so it's actually an exponential.
You heat loss calculations assume a constant internal temperature - so they would correspond to the initial heat loss ... which involve curve-fitting.

You can relate a change in temperature to a change in energy right?
Ideally you want to determine this experimentally ... use a heating element of known power to heat air in a well insulated box and measure the temperature - plot Temp vs time. OR you can use one of the many theoretical models for air ... PV=(5/2)NkT (diatomic ideal gas) to get an approximate figure (you should apply such models to your theoretical heat-loss to turn it into a change in temperature).

Of course you could verify directly - since the calculation you did was for equilibrium at a particular operating temp, you can directly measure the energy pumped into the air from the heaters. This should match the heat loss.
 

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