How can the Chi_b (3P) particle exist if matter and anti-matter annihilate?

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The discussion revolves around the existence of the Chi_b (3P) particle, which consists of a bottom quark and an anti-bottom quark, and the implications of matter-antimatter annihilation. Participants explore the nature of bound states in particle physics, particularly in the context of quark-antiquark pairs, and the conditions under which annihilation occurs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Chi_b (3P) is composed of a bottom quark and an anti-bottom quark, questioning how it can exist given that matter and antimatter typically annihilate.
  • Another participant explains that the Chi_b (3P) exists in a bound orbital state, similar to other onium states, and that annihilation occurs only when particles fall out of these orbits.
  • The concept of '-onium' states is introduced, with examples like positronium and charmonium, indicating that these states can exist transiently despite the potential for annihilation.
  • It is mentioned that annihilation requires particles to be electrically or color-charged and that the products are gauge bosons, with specific conditions affecting the annihilation process.
  • A clarification is provided regarding neutrinos and their inability to annihilate in the same manner due to their weak isospin charges and the mass of the gauge bosons they interact with.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for annihilation and the nature of bound states, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of particle interactions and the specific conditions under which annihilation occurs, emphasizing the need for further exploration of these concepts.

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The recently discovered Chi_b (3P) is made up of a bottom quark and an anti bottom quark.
I thought, however, that should a matter particle meet with its anti counterpart, they would annihilate into pure energy.

Am I missing something?

Thanks.
 
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The components of a chib(3P) are orbiting around each other - the 3P denotes the orbital quantum state.

Yes, particles and their corresponding anti-particles will annihilate one another if they meet 'directly', but it's also possible for them to form into bound orbital states, even though this is usually only transiently. These states are generally termed '-onium' states. For example positronium states involve an electron and positron orbiting one another, charmonium states have c and cbar components, and the chib(3P) is itself one of the various bottomonium states. The π0 itself is also an onium state, albeit a mixture of u-ubar and d-dbar, and similarly for various other neutral mesons.

Like a Hydrogen atom, each onium group has a set of allowed orbital energy states. To annihilate, the particles must basically fall out of these orbits.

The other caveat about annihilation that doesn't get mentioned much is that, at energies below the electroweak symmetry breaking scale, the particle and antiparticle involved must be either electrically or colour-charged. The products of the annihilation are the corresponding gauge bosons, ie photons and gluons* - annihilation itself is a straightforward interaction between charged particles and gauge bosons. Because the latter are massless, any particle/antiparticle pair with the corresponding charges can transform into them as there will always be a state of two or three real gauge bosons that has lower energy than that of the particle + antiparticle. Neutrinos and antineutrinos, however, can't do this, because they only carry weak isospin charges and so the only gauge bosons they could interact with, and hence annihilate into, are Ws and Zs, which are very heavy. The cosmic neutrino background contains both neutrinos and antinuetrinos (assuming neutrinos are Dirac particles and not Majorana) but these can't annihilate because they don't have the energy to produce real Ws or Zs.

* sufficiently energetic pairs can also annihilate into single virtual gauge bosons that then produce new, lighter particle pairs eg e+e-.
 
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PS to clarify the last point a bit more, a neutrino-antineutrino pair can produce a virtual Z0, but the only thing the latter can then do is produce another neutrino-antineutrino pair, because neutrinos are the lightest particles that interact with Z0s.
 
Cool, thanks Adrian.
 

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