How Can the Magnetic Vector Potential be Numerically Solved in the X-Y Plane?

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The discussion revolves around the numerical solution of the wave equation for the magnetic vector potential in the x-y plane, specifically addressing the mathematical formulation and grid setup required for such computations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in solving the wave equation of the magnetic vector potential, expressed as curl curl A = µ J.
  • Another participant suggests using the identity for curl squared and proposes a gauge condition, leading to Laplace's equation, which can be solved numerically.
  • A participant questions the classification of the resultant equation as Poisson's equation rather than Laplace's, emphasizing that A is a vector and not a scalar.
  • There is a discussion about the placement of the vector A on the grid, with a participant suggesting it should be linked to the grid rather than positioned at the nodes.
  • One participant proposes solving the vector components separately in Cartesian coordinates, resulting in three Laplacian equations for Ax, Ay, and Az.
  • Another participant discusses the possibility of different grid setups for electromagnetics, mentioning the Yee grid as a common approach that offsets electric and magnetic fields from grid points.
  • A request is made for examples of discretization methods for the magnetic field potential in three dimensions, along with inquiries about stable numerical methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of the equation and the appropriate grid setup for numerical solutions, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully agree on the classification of the resultant equation, the placement of vector components on the grid, or the stability of various numerical methods, leaving several assumptions and definitions unresolved.

merro
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hi everybody
i want to solve the wave equation of the magnetic vector potential numerically in x-y plane grid,
curl curl A= µ J
anyone can help me

thanks in advance
 
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Well first you should use the identity "curl squared = grad div - del squared": ∇ x (∇ x A) = ∇ ∇·A - ∇2 A. Then choose a gauge ∇·A = 0. You're left with Laplace's equation, which can be solved numerically.
 
thanks, but i have another question , the reusltant equation will be ∇^2 A=-µ J, and A is a vector, not a scalar, this one is not Laplace , is Poisson, or
 
because the A is a vector then must be put in links of the grid, not on the nodes, or?
 
merro said:
thanks, but i have another question , the reusltant equation will be ∇^2 A=-µ J, and A is a vector, not a scalar, this one is not Laplace , is Poisson, or

But J is a vector too. Solve the vector components separately in Cartesian coordinates and you have three Laplacian equations.
 
do you mean that
∇^2 Ax=Jx,
∇^2 Ay=Jy,
∇^2 Az=Jz,
and Ax, Ay, Az lies on the grid nodes
 
merro said:
do you mean that
∇^2 Ax=Jx,
∇^2 Ay=Jy,
∇^2 Az=Jz,
and Ax, Ay, Az lies on the grid nodes

As you wish, though there are a few ways to setup the grid for electromagnetics depending on the exact numerical procedure. For example, a common grid for FDTD, the Yee grid, will offset the electric and magnetic fields from the grid points. That may also be appropriate here if you wish to do a second order finite difference approach.
 
please , can you show me some examples to discrization of the magentic field potential in x-y-z plan , if anyone has a paper of chapter of book can help me. and which methods could be stable numerically
 

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