How can we use calculus to find volumes of revolution?

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The discussion revolves around using calculus to derive the volume of solids of revolution, specifically when a function y = f(x) is revolved around the x-axis. Participants are exploring the mathematical foundations and formulas related to this topic.

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  • Participants discuss deriving the volume formula from basic area formulas and integration concepts. There are attempts to connect the area of circular cross-sections to the volume of the solid formed by rotation. Questions arise about the transition from area to volume and the proper limits of integration.

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Several participants have provided insights into the relationship between the area of circular disks and the volume of the solid of revolution. There is ongoing exploration of how to properly set up the integral and the implications of the thickness of the disks. No explicit consensus has been reached, but productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants are working within the constraints of an assignment and are referencing specific methods like the Trapezoidal Rule and Simpson's Method. There is some uncertainty regarding the limits of integration and the transition from area to volume calculations.

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As part of an assignment on Approximating Areas and Volume I am asked to derive the equation shown in the image attached.

The question reads: "It can be shown that if y = f(x) is revolved around the x-axis to form a solid between x=a and x=b then the volume of the solid is give by the equation shown in the image.

Some equations I have been using are basic area formula such as
Area (trapezium) = 1/2(a+b)xh

I have also attempted to derive the forumula by looking at the Trapezoidal Rule and Simpson's Method and working backward to derive the formula.
 

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As you rotate a cross section of the curve around the axis, it forms a cylinder, with radius y=f(x). and a thickness of δx.

The volume of that cylinder is given by:
A=\piy2 δx

As the thickness of the cylinder approaches zero and you add (integrate) all the volumes of the reaaaaaly thin cylinders.
That gives the expression:

\int\pif(x)2dx

I'm not quite sure how to put the limits in, but they are from a to b.

I hope that helped!
 
\displaystyle \int_{a}^{b}{\pi \left(f(x)\right)^2} dx
 
Hi,
Use two fonctions y=mx for a to b and y=k for b to c

add the result and multiply by two.
 

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mattg443 said:
As you rotate a cross section of the curve around the axis, it forms a cylinder, with radius y=f(x). and a thickness of δx.

The volume of that cylinder is given by:
A=\piy2 δx

As the thickness of the cylinder approaches zero and you add (integrate) all the volumes of the reaaaaaly thin cylinders.
That gives the expression:

\int\pi\,f(x)2dx

I'm not quite sure how to put the limits in, but they are from a to b.

I hope that helped!

Actually, that should be,

The volume of that cylinder is given by:
A*δx = \piy2 δx
 
Thanks All, But how to we actually get from A=πy2 δx to ∫πf(x)2dx
How does the area become the volume?
 
A is the area of a circle with radius y & y = f(x). That radius goes from the x-axis, vertically up to the graph y = f(x). Multiplying times δx (delta-x) gives the volume of a very thin circular disk of thickness δx . The integral from x=a to x=b indicates that the volume of a series of such disk is summed to give the total volume of the solid of revolution.
 
The definition of an integral is adding (\sum) very skinny things (lim\delta x-->0) between two points.

If you are finding the area under a curve, you integrate between two points and are adding skinny rectangles (with almost no width i.e\deltax), which are practically adding lines. (you just add the heights \intydx)

With volumes, in this case, you are adding skinny cylinders, until the cylinder becomes practically a circle. (you just add the areas of those circles \int\piy2dx)

Adding lines gives an area
Adding areas gives a volume (just imagine adding all the areas of the pages of a book to get its volume)
 

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