How can you deepen your understanding of the brachistochrone problem?

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The discussion centers on the brachistochrone problem, a classic physics and calculus of variations challenge. The original poster has explored the cycloid's parametric equations using Bernoulli's method and created programs to visualize the curve. However, they seek further guidance on advancing their understanding, particularly in areas such as geometric curves, friction in physics, and computational methods. Participants recommend consulting classical physics texts and resources like the Insight blog on the subject for deeper insights.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the brachistochrone problem and its significance in physics.
  • Familiarity with the parametric equations of the cycloid.
  • Basic knowledge of calculus of variations.
  • Programming skills for visualizing mathematical concepts.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the calculus of variations in detail to understand its application to the brachistochrone problem.
  • Explore geometric curves generated by different shapes and their mathematical implications.
  • Investigate the effects of friction on motion in the context of the brachistochrone problem.
  • Review classical physics textbooks that cover dynamics and the brachistochrone problem.
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Students in mathematics, physics, and computer science, particularly those interested in classical mechanics and optimization problems.

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Hi I'm in second year of study in Math, Physic and Informatic and I require some help.
I began a work on the brachistochrone problem. It's really interesting and I already found lot of things (the equation of the cycloid by the Bernoulli's method, I wrote some programs which draw the curve between two point,... )
But after this first researchs and results I don't know how to continue... Could you help me, give me some indication to go further ?


2. Homework Equations

Parametric equation of the cycloid

The Attempt at a Solution


Further in math : curves generate by other geometric figures ?
Further in physics : friction actions ? Speed font ion of the time ?
Further in Informatic : No idea...

Thank's for your help :)

PS : excuse me for my English... I'm French and I'm still learning !
 
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Have you looked at a classical physics book and how to use the calculus of variations to solve the problem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brachistochrone_curve

Please be aware that we can't provide the solution or show you how to do it. We can only provide hints based on the work you've shown.
 
janonus said:

Homework Statement



Hi I'm in second year of study in Math, Physic and Informatic and I require some help.
I began a work on the brachistochrone problem. It's really interesting and I already found lot of things (the equation of the cycloid by the Bernoulli's method, I wrote some programs which draw the curve between two point,... )
But after this first researchs and results I don't know how to continue... Could you help me, give me some indication to go further ?


2. Homework Equations

Parametric equation of the cycloid

The Attempt at a Solution


Further in math : curves generate by other geometric figures ?
Further in physics : friction actions ? Speed font ion of the time ?
Further in Informatic : No idea...

Thank's for your help :)

PS : excuse me for my English... I'm French and I'm still learning !
My old Housner & Hudson, Applied Mechanics - Dynamics covers the subject. You might also want to read my Insight blog Brachistochrone Subway! and attendant comments in this forum.
 

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