How Can You Derive the Formula 0.5(n+1)(n+2) from a Summation Problem?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the formula 0.5(n+1)(n+2) from a summation problem. The initial sum presented is split into two parts, with one part correctly identified as 0.5*N(N+1). The confusion arises from interpreting the first summation, which participants clarify is (N+1)(n+1) when n is treated as a constant. The conversation highlights the importance of clear notation, particularly regarding the index used in summation. Ultimately, the participants emphasize the need for a precise problem statement to resolve the confusion.
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Hi all,

I have the following sum

\sum n - n_1 + 1

which I split up in two independent sums

\sum_{n_1=0}^N n + 1 - \sum_{n_1=0}^N n_1

the last sum can be written as

0.5*n(n+1)

but how to rewrite the first sum any hints appreciated. The final answer is
0.5(n+1)(n+2)

but as stated above I have some problems getting there.
Any help or advice appreciated thanks in advance
 
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Unless you are holding something back,
\sum_{n_1=0}^N n + 1 = (N + 1)(n + 1)

Further,
\sum_{n_1=0}^N n_1 = \frac12 N (N + 1)
(note the capital N); assuming that in the first line,
\sum n - n_1 + 1
you meant
\sum_{n_1 = 1}^N n - n_1 + 1
you are otherwise more or less correct...

Your notation is confusing though.
 
thanks for the reply - my problem is understanding the first summation

(N+1)(n+1)

how is small n to be interpreted?

Thanks in advance any hints appreciated.
 
jorgen said:
thanks for the reply - my problem is understanding the first summation

(N+1)(n+1)

how is small n to be interpreted?

Thanks in advance any hints appreciated.
However YOU mean it! You wrote
\sum_{n1= 0}^N (n+1)
The "index" is n1 and that changes from 0 to N, but there is no "n1" in the sum itself- you are just adding the number n+ 1 to itself N+1 times. Any number added to itself N+1 times is just N+1 times that number: here (N+1)(n+1).

Actually it seems peculiar to me to use "n1" as an index. Why the 1? You are, of course, welcome to use whatever labels you like but I would have thought that \sum n- n1+ 1 would be interpreted as
\sum_{n=0}^N n- n1+ 1[/itex] <br /> where n1 is some fixed number.
 
thanks,

n_1 can change its value that is why I write it like that. So in order to get to

0.5(n+1)(n+2)

I have to say that in the limit n = N?

thanks in advance
 
jorgen said:
thanks,

n_1 can change its value that is why I write it like that. So in order to get to

0.5(n+1)(n+2)

I have to say that in the limit n = N?

thanks in advance
What limit are you talking about? Perhaps it would be a good idea if you stated exactly what the problem you are working on is! You have already been given the answer to the problem you stated.
 
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