How could I get Bachelor degree in physics?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of obtaining a Bachelor’s degree in physics without formally enrolling in a university program. Participants explore the challenges and requirements of physics education, particularly for someone already pursuing a degree in computer science.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to study physics independently and take a comprehensive exam to earn a degree, questioning if any institutions allow this.
  • Another participant argues that self-teaching to the level of a Bachelor's degree in physics is highly challenging and outlines the extensive coursework typically required for a physics major.
  • A suggestion is made to consider switching majors or pursuing a double major in physics and computer science, although this may extend the time needed to graduate.
  • It is mentioned that the Physics GRE subject test can be taken by anyone, but its utility for proving knowledge without pursuing graduate studies is questioned.
  • Some participants assert that no reputable institution would grant a degree solely based on passing a comprehensive exam, emphasizing the importance of coursework and lab experience.
  • Concerns are raised about the desire to obtain a degree without the corresponding effort typically required in a formal educational setting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the possibility of obtaining a physics degree without formal education, with some asserting it is not feasible while others explore alternative pathways. No consensus is reached regarding the validity of the proposed independent study approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the significant coursework and lab requirements involved in earning a physics degree, noting that a comprehensive exam cannot replace the educational experience of a full program.

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Hi, I'm a computer science student (2nd year). and I LOVE physics and hope to get a bachelor degree in it. because It's very hard to be a physics and computer science student at the same time, I decided to study physics when I'm not busy in studying computer science. So, is there any institute, university, college or any academy that could give a bachelor in physics without being a student in it?
In other words, I want to take a comprehensive physics exam and then have a bachelor in physics as I'm real physics undergraduate.
 
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I'm not aware of any such exam, and I think that you are probably underestimating the level of difficulty in upper-division physics courses. To self teach up through a Bachelor's degree level would be quite an astounding feat.

In my department, physics majors need to take (at a bare minimum) the Intro Sequence, Waves and Optics, Modern Physics, Mechanics II, E&M II, Quantum I, II and III, Statistical Mechanics, and two advanced Labs. Math requirements are Diff EQ, Advanced Calc II, and 3 additional upper-division math courses.

The two solutions, if you really want a physics degree, are:
1) Switch into physics, or double major. I imagine a double major would take quite some time to complete, so that may not be feasible for you.

2) I'm actually a Computational Physics major. If your school has multiple physics degree plans, they might have something similar that might interest you. The requirements for me are basically the above listed Physics courses, minus one of the labs and Quantum III, but plus a Computational Physics course and an Electronic Techniques course. I have to take 4 core computation/programming classes. The upper-division math requirement is changed to 2 upper-division "Math or Scientific Computation" courses. Since your only a 2nd year student, you could transfer into a program like this (at your school or maybe even another) and likely still graduate on time or close to it.

Edit: I should have mentioned that I believe that anyone can take the Physics GRE subject test. Unless you wanted to apply to grad school though, I am not sure it would benefit you substantially, other than serving as proof of your knowledge. See:http://www.ets.org/gre/subject/about/content/physics
 
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Thank you very much bossman27 ^_^... You really gave very useful information.

Isn't there anyone that want to give further info??
 
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ultrasmart said:
So, is there any institute, university, college or any academy that could give a bachelor in physics without being a student in it?
In other words, I want to take a comprehensive physics exam and then have a bachelor in physics as I'm real physics undergraduate.

No reputable school would give a degree purely for completing a comprehensive exam. No exam is equivalent to four years of classwork, sorry.

(At best, you *might* be able to place out of a few lower division courses.)
 
Defo not in physics
Labs is like a quarter of the degree, not to mention the final research project
 
ultrasmart said:
because It's very hard to be a physics and computer science student at the same time, I decided to study physics when I'm not busy in studying computer science.
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In other words, I want to take a comprehensive physics exam and then have a bachelor in physics as I'm real physics undergraduate.

If you plan on studying physics in your spare time to the extent that you have the same knowledge as someone with a BS degree, why not simply enroll in a physics BS program?

It seems that you'd like to get the same credentials (a BS) without putting in the same amount of work (by studying in your "spare time") - which isn't how it works.
 

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