How did you arrive at this expression?

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The discussion revolves around proving the expression [A,B^n] = nB^{n-1}[A,B] in the context of commutators in quantum mechanics or algebra. The original poster attempts to derive this result using a series of expansions and properties of commutators, particularly focusing on the case where [[A,B],B] = 0.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of induction as a method to prove the expression. The original poster shares their attempts and expresses confusion about how to proceed from their derived expression. Others ask for clarification on the steps taken and suggest showing the work done so far.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the proof. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of induction, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or resolution of the problem.

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There is a mention of a contradiction between the derived expression and the formula being referenced for the proof. The original poster indicates they are struggling with the induction process and the implications of their findings.

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1. Prove that [tex][A,B^n] = nB^{n-1}[A,B][/tex]

Given that: [tex][[A,B],B] = 0[/tex]

My Atempt to resolution

We can write that:
[tex][[A,B],B] = [A,B]B-B[A,B] = 0[/tex]

So we get that: [tex][A,B]B = B[A,B][/tex]

After some working several expansions, and considering that [tex][X,YZ] = Y[X,Z] + [X,Y]Z[/tex]

I arrived at this expression:

[tex][A,B^n] = B^{n-1}[A,B]+B^{n-2}[A,B]+[A,B^{n-2}]B^2[/tex]

But from here I'm a bit lost on how to get the desired result.
So, could anyone help me?

Thanks a lot!
 
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Prove it using induction.
 
yes, I've tried that, but i can't get to the desired result...

could you help me?

thx again
 
Show us what you have so far.
 
what i have is the last expression in my first post.
so, by induction, and starting from this expression, i cannot get what i want to prove.
 
Do you know how to do a proof by induction?
 
carvas said:
After some working several expansions, and considering that [tex][X,YZ] = Y[X,Z] + [X,Y]Z[/tex]

I arrived at this expression:

[tex][A,B^n] = B^{n-1}[A,B]+B^{n-2}[A,B]+[A,B^{n-2}]B^2[/tex]
This result contradicts the formula you say that you're using. (Think X=A, Y=Bn-2, Z=B2).
 

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