How Do Earthen Vessels Regulate Water Temperature?

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The discussion revolves around how earthen vessels regulate the temperature of water contained within them, particularly in comparison to other materials like steel. Participants explore the mechanisms of heat transfer, evaporation, and the implications of the vessel's material properties on temperature maintenance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that earthen vessels help maintain the temperature of water inside by preventing heat transfer from the surroundings, unlike metal vessels which may absorb heat and increase the water temperature.
  • Others argue that the pores in earthen vessels allow water to evaporate from the outer surface, which could cool the outer surface but not necessarily the water inside.
  • A participant suggests that while evaporation may draw energy from the water inside, it does not reduce the temperature of the water if the external temperature is higher.
  • Some participants question the effectiveness of earthen vessels in cooling water, especially when the water temperature is below ambient, and discuss the potential for lower temperatures with forced air flow.
  • One participant claims that earthen vessels serve as a simple refrigeration method in areas without electricity, emphasizing their practical use.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of earthen vessels in regulating water temperature, with no consensus reached on whether they cool the water inside or merely maintain its temperature.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about heat transfer, the role of evaporation, and the conditions under which earthen vessels may or may not be effective, without resolving these complexities.

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When temperature of water in earthen pot is less than temperature outside, will earthen vessel help in maintaining the temperature of water inside constant (or) will it help by decreasing the temperature inside?
 
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I think it only helps in maintaining temperature of water inside vessel constant. If you take the same water in some steel vessel, as it is a better conductor, it will absorb heat from surroundings and transfer heat to water inside making it hotter. In case of earthen vessel, the water in pores doesn't decrease the temperature of the water inside, it only helps in maintaining temperature if we follow rules of heat transfer.
 
Bearing in mind that Earthenware is rubbish, structurally, (it is heavy and easily broken) can you think of another reason why it could be chosen for containing water? Even the most primitive societies have access to plastic, which has many advantages but earthenware is still popular. This could be what the question is about.
 
Puneeth423 said:
I think it only helps in maintaining temperature of water inside vessel constant. If you take the same water in some steel vessel, as it is a better conductor, it will absorb heat from surroundings and transfer heat to water inside making it hotter. In case of earthen vessel, the water in pores doesn't decrease the temperature of the water inside, it only helps in maintaining temperature if we follow rules of heat transfer.

The the presence of the pores will enable water to reach the outer surface of vessel, where it can evaporate. This will cool the outer surface.
 
Chestermiller said:
The the presence of the pores will enable water to reach the outer surface of vessel, where it can evaporate. This will cool the outer surface.

This will not cool the vessel. As the temperature outside is more than the temperature inside the vessel, it will will take heat from outside and evaporates. This will help in maintaining the temperature of water inside but doesn't cool the water inside. It will not allow the heat to flow from outside to inside.
 
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Puneeth423 said:
This will not cool the vessel. As the temperature outside is more than the temperature inside the vessel, it will will take heat from outside and evaporates. This will help in maintaining the temperature of water inside but doesn't cool the water inside. It will not allow the heat to flow from outside to inside.

Why should it not reduce the temperature of the water? Start with water at room temperature and some of the energy for evaporation will come from the water inside - reducing the temperature. Why do people die of exposure if that doesn't happen?
 
sophiecentaur said:
Why should it not reduce the temperature of the water? Start with water at room temperature and some of the energy for evaporation will come from the water inside - reducing the temperature. Why do people die of exposure if that doesn't happen?

You are talking if the temperature of water inside is high or equal room temperature. But what if the water temperature is less than the room temperature?
 
The water can easily stabilise at a temperature below ambient. If there is forced air flow, the temperature can be even lower.
 
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Chestermiller said:
The the presence of the pores will enable water to reach the outer surface of vessel, where it can evaporate. This will cool the outer surface.
Yes that works to cool the water inside; and it's perhaps the main reason for its use in places without electricity. It's the simplest fridge in the world. :smile:
 

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