How Do I Calculate the Volume of a Hole in a Metal Piece?

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The problem involves calculating the volume of a hole in a metal piece, given its density and weight in air and water. The subject area includes principles of buoyancy and density in fluid mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Archimedes' principle and the relationship between buoyant force and displaced water. There are attempts to derive equations for volume based on weight measurements in air and water.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring various interpretations of buoyancy and weight. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations of buoyant force and the importance of checking units. There is no explicit consensus on the final volume calculation, but multiple approaches are being examined.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of physical principles.

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I've got this problem with my HW. Would appreciate the help. Thanks.

1. Homework Statement

A metal peace with the density of 10,4 g/cm3, has a hole on the inside. The metal weighs 8,2N in air and 7,1N in water. What is the volume of the hole?

Homework Equations


V = m / ρ
m = Fg / g
Maybe some else I don't know.

The Attempt at a Solution


So I have already managed to figure out that: V1 = (8,2N / 10m/s2) / 10400 kg/m3 = 0,0000788m3 = 78,8cm3; Which means the volume of the metal has to be 78,8cm3, since the hole inside is filled with air and there is air around it. Now I am probably suppose to figure out the volume of the meta peace in the water and then subtract the volume of the metal from it, to get the volume of the hole. But how can I calculate the volume of the metal peace in the water? Help?
 
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What does Archimedes' principle tell you?
 
That any floating object displaces it's own weight of fluid. So technically the equation would be V = (Fg / g) = ρ;
But that doesn't seem right...
 
That is a special case for when an object floats and therefore has the same buoyancy as its weight. The more general statement is that the buoyancy force is equal to the weight of the displaced water. An object that sinks displaces a volume of water equal to its own volume.
 
Would that mean that: Fb = Fg = ρ * g * V
V = Fb / (ρ * g) ?

But that can't be right, because it is smaller than the actual volume of the metal...
 
What values are you putting in for Fb and rho?
 
ρ = 10,4 g/cm3 = 10400kg/m3 (the density of the metal)
Fb = 7,10N (the weight of the metal in the water)

Is this not right?
 
The total weight of the object in the water is the gravitational force on the object minus the buoyant force.

Archimedes' principle states that the buoyant force is equal to the weight of the displaced *water*.
 
So if I'm interpreting this right this means:
Fb = ρ(water) * g
Fb = 1000kg/m3 * 10m/s2 = 10000N

F = Fg - Fb
F = m * g - Fb
m = (F + Fb) / g
m = (7,1N + 10000N) / 10m/s2 = 1000,71kg

V = m / ρ = 1000,71kg / 10400kg/m3 = 0,0962m3

Which is not correct... This is so hard...
 
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You are missing the displaced volume in your computation of Fb. A good practice is to always check that the units in your expressions are correct. The force on the object due to gravity you have from the weight outside of water.
 
  • #11
Fb = ρ * g * V1
F = Fg - Fb

F = Fg - ρ*g*V1
V1 = (Fg - F) / (ρ*g) = (8,2N - 7,1N) / (1000kg/m3 * 10m/s2) = 0,00011m3 = 110cm3

V= V1 - V2 = 110cm3 - 78,8cm3 = 31,2cm3

And according to the solutions below 31,2cm3 is right! Thanks kind Sir from the internet. :)
 

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