How Do I Correctly Simplify the Derivative of Arctan(2x-3)?

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of the arctangent and arcsine functions, specifically focusing on the derivative of arctan(2x-3) and arcsin(2x-3). Participants are examining the simplification of derivatives and the correctness of their algebraic manipulations.

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  • Participants explore the derivative of arctan(2x-3) and question the simplification steps taken, particularly regarding the expression (2x-3)^2. There is also discussion about the derivative of arcsin(2x-3) and the confusion surrounding its simplification.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the algebraic simplifications, indicating where misunderstandings may lie. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between different expressions and the validity of simplification techniques. Multiple interpretations of the simplifications are being discussed without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement


[tex]\frac{d}{dx} [ arctan (2x-3) ][/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


The general solution for d/dx arctan(x) = [tex]\frac{du/dx}{1+x^2}[/tex]

so

[tex]\frac{du/dx}{1+(2x-3)^2}[/tex]

[tex]du/dx = 2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{1+(2x-3)^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{1+2x^2-12x+9}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{10+2x^2-12x}[/tex]

now this is where my question comes in,

When I simplify it, I would divide all the terms in the numerator and denominator by 2,

giving me [tex]\frac{1}{5+x^2-6x}[/tex]

however I've been told that this simplification is wrong without any explanation

why?
 
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It's wrong because (2x-3)^2=4*x^2-12x+9.
 
Dick said:
It's wrong because (2x-3)^2=4*x^2-12x+9.

Oh right, thanks

also

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} arcsin(2x-3)[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{1-(2x-3)^2}}[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{1-(4x^2-12x+9)}}[/tex]

but apparently that's wrong too!
?

it's supposed to be
[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{1-(3-2x)^2}}[/tex]

but i don't understand why,

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d/dx+arcsin(2x-3)
 
Those two expressions are exactly the same thing. (2x-3)^2=(3-2x)^2=4x^2-12x+9. Are you overtired?
 
Dick said:
Those two expressions are exactly the same thing. (2x-3)^2=(3-2x)^2=4x^2-12x+9. Are you overtired?

just one of those days,
 
Last one I promise,

[tex]d/dx arcsin(\frac{2x+3}{5})[/tex]

I get from the equation, [tex]d/dx [ arcsin(x/a) ] = \frac{1}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{5^2-(2x+3)^2}}[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{25-9 - 4x^2 -12x}}[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{2}{\sqrt{16-4x^2-12x}}[/tex]

simplifying it by dividing everything by 2

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{8-2x^2-12x}}[/tex]

however apparently I'm wrong again and could've simplified it further

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2-3x+4}}[/tex]
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=d/dx+arcsin((2x+3)/5)

however I don't see how that's possible unless I have a 1/2 in the numerator

is there a property of the square root that I'm missing?
 
I really think you need a nap. Suppose I told you I'd simplified 2/sqrt(16) to 1/sqrt(8). Would you believe me? Are you sure you don't see what's wrong? You've got some other problems in there, but let's stick with that for now.
 
Dick said:
I really think you need a nap. Suppose I told you I'd simplified 2/sqrt(16) to 1/sqrt(8). Would you believe me? Are you sure you don't see what's wrong? You've got some other problems in there, but let's stick with that for now.

I wouldn't believe you because 1/sqrt(8) != 2/4

before I tried to simplify
was the result

[tex] \frac{2}{\sqrt{16-4x^2-12x}} [/tex]

not correct?
I thought I did that right. where would I go from here?
 
That's correct. I would pull a factor of 4 out of the expression in the radical, then sqrt(4)=2 that cancels the 2 in the denominator. But this is getting silly. sqrt(a*b)=sqrt(a)*sqrt(b), right? Not sqrt(a*b)=a*sqrt(b). You MUST know that. You don't just pull factors out through powers.
 

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