How do I determine the correct vector potential for a given electric field?

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The discussion revolves around determining the correct vector potential for a given electric field, specifically in the context of electromagnetism. Participants explore the relationships between electric fields, vector potentials, and scalar potentials, considering various combinations and gauge transformations.

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  • One participant presents a specific case where the electric field is given as \textbf{E}=E_{0}\hat{x} and proposes multiple potential combinations, questioning how to determine the correct one.
  • Another participant notes that there are many possible choices of scalar and vector potentials that yield the same electric and magnetic fields, introducing the concept of gauge transformations.
  • A participant raises a question about selecting the vector potential in a scenario involving a constant electric field and a Lagrangian that includes a term with the vector potential.
  • One contributor emphasizes that electromagnetism is fundamentally a gauge theory, highlighting that observable quantities are the electromagnetic fields \textbf{E} and \textbf{B}, and that potentials can be transformed without changing the fields.
  • Further elaboration includes the relationship between the potentials and Maxwell's equations, noting the complexity of the equations involved and the freedom to choose potentials due to gauge transformations.
  • A convenient choice for simplifying calculations is mentioned, specifically the Lorenz gauge condition, which allows the equations to decouple into wave equations for the potentials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants acknowledge the existence of multiple valid approaches to selecting vector and scalar potentials, indicating a lack of consensus on a single correct method. The discussion reflects competing views on how to navigate gauge freedom and the implications of gauge transformations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the complexities of gauge transformations and the implications for solving Maxwell's equations, with participants expressing various assumptions and conditions regarding the potentials and fields involved.

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Hi PF members,

I have a question about how to find the vector potential from a given electric field. For example,

\textbf{E}=-\nabla\phi-\partial\textbf{A}/\partial t and \textbf{B}=∇\times\textbf{A}

Given \textbf{E}=E_{0}\hat{x}, electrostatic potential may be 0 and \textbf{A}=-E_{0}t\hat{x}

or A may be 0 and \phi=-E_{0}x or may be it can be \textbf{A}=-\frac{E_{0}}{2}t\hat{x} and \phi=-\frac{E_{0}}{2}x or any other combinations of these two.

So how can I know which is the correct one?

Thanks in advance..
 
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In general there are many possible choices of the scalar and vector potential that give the same E and B fields, and these are related by a so-called gauge transformation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_theory#Classical_electromagnetism. This might seem like a dull curiosity, but rest assured there is some significance attached to the freedom to do gauge transformations - if you ever hear that the Standard Model of particle physics is a "gauge theory", then that's the same kind of "gauge".
 
In a question, I am given that electric field is constant and a lagrangian which includes a term with A. So how can choose A in this problem?
 
The point is that electromagnetism is a gauge theory. This is the most important feature to understand about it. Everything else in e+m is an application of this principle ;-).

Observable is only the electromagnetic field with the electric components \vec{E} and magnetic components \vec{B}. The homogeneous Maxwell equations (in Heaviside-Lorentz units with c=1),
\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{E}+\partial_t \vec{B}=0, \quad \vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{B}=0
imply the existence of the four-vector potential with components (\phi, \vec{A}) such that
\vec{E}=-\partial_t \vec{A}-\vec{\nabla} \phi, \quad \vec{B}=\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{A}.
If for given (\vec{E},\vec{B}) you have found scalar and vector potential then any other set of potentials, connected with the old one via a gauge transformation of the form
\phi'=\phi+\partial_t \chi, \quad \vec{A}'=\vec{A}-\vec{\nabla} \chi
with an arbitrary scalar field \chi also leads to the same electromagnetic field, i.e., the one set of potentials is as good as any other connected to it by a gauge transformation.

You've seen this in your example of a homogeneous electrostatic field. Usually, of course, you have to solve the Maxwell equations for some given physical arrangement of charges and current densities. The inhomogeneous Maxwell equations read (in the vacuum!)
\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{E}=\rho, \quad \vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B}-\partial_t \vec{E}=\vec{j}.
Expressing the field components in terms of the potentials this gives
-\vec{\nabla} \cdot (\partial_t \vec{A}+\vec{\nabla} \phi)=\rho, \quad \vec{\nabla} (\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{A})-\Delta \vec{A}+\partial_t (\partial_t \vec{A}+\vec{\nabla} \phi)=j.
This is a pretty complicated set of coupled partial differential equations, but the point is that you have some freedom to choose the potentials since they are only defined modulo a gauge transformation. Thus you can simplify your work by constraining the potentials to fix the corresponding arbitrary gauge function \chi.

A very convenient choice is the Lorenz gauge condition
\partial_t \phi+\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{A}=0.
It's easy to show that the pretty complicated equations above decouple to inhomogeneous wave equations for each component of the potential separately:
\Box \phi=\rho, \quad \Box \vec{A}=\vec{j},
where \Box=\partial_t^2-\Delta is the D'Alembert operator.
 

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