How do I evaluate this Line Integral over the boundary of a unit disk?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves evaluating a line integral over the boundary of the first quadrant of the unit disk, specifically ∫(xy)dx+(x+y)dy. Participants are tasked with using the definition of the line integral to find the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss their attempts to evaluate the integral, including the use of parametric equations for x and y. Questions arise regarding the correctness of their limits of integration and the setup of the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the setup and have pointed out potential errors in calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, including the use of Green's theorem, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention discrepancies between their results and those found in external resources, such as Wolfram and textbook answers. There is also a note about the need for more detailed work to clarify the calculations performed.

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Homework Statement


Let C be the (positively oriented) boundary of the first quadrant of the unit disk. Use the definition of the line integral to find ∫(xy)dx+(x+y)dy


Homework Equations


x=rcos(x)
y=rsin(x)
dx=-sin(x)
dy=cos(y)
0≤ t ≤ ∏/2

The Attempt at a Solution


∫-cos(t)sin^2(t)+cos^2(t)+sin(t)cos(t) dt from 0 to ∏/2
Then I finished out the integral and was left with ∏/4-5/6 which is incorrect. Could it possibly have to do with the r or my limits of integration?
 
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BTW I can do this using Greens theorem
 
Bamboozled91 said:

Homework Statement


Let C be the (positively oriented) boundary of the first quadrant of the unit disk. Use the definition of the line integral to find ∫(xy)dx+(x+y)dy


Homework Equations


x=rcos(x)
y=rsin(x)
dx=-sin(x)
dy=cos(y)
0≤ t ≤ ∏/2

The Attempt at a Solution


∫-cos(t)sin^2(t)+cos^2(t)+sin(t)cos(t) dt from 0 to ∏/2
Then I finished out the integral and was left with ∏/4-5/6 which is incorrect. Could it possibly have to do with the r or my limits of integration?

No, the setup looks ok. I think you just did the integral wrong. I don't get the number you got as a answer.
 
I used wolfram to see where I mesed up and when it gave me the integral it gave the answer pi/4-1/6 which is also incorrect. Also another weird thing is I did the integral again and I got the same thing wolfram did unfortunatley the back of the book disagrees it says the answer is pi/4-1/3. Which I believe because I can solve using greens so you got anything else
 
Bamboozled91 said:
I used wolfram to see where I mesed up and when it gave me the integral it gave the answer pi/4-1/6 which is also incorrect. Also another weird thing is I did the integral again and I got the same thing wolfram did unfortunatley the back of the book disagrees it says the answer is pi/4-1/3. Which I believe because I can solve using greens so you got anything else

You really need to show more of your work before we can help. Yes, Green's theorem gives you pi/4-1/3. So far you've only given the line integral over the arc. What do you get for the line integral over the x=0 and y=0 parts of the region?
 
Yah sorry about not showing too much work but that would require a ton of typing and I am lazy. Other than that, I think I have solved it. I found that the line integral over x=0 would cancel out. As for y=0, I determined it to be -1/2 so when I add -1/2 to pi/4+1/6. I get pi/4-1/3 which is correct. Let me show my work at least for the part I just did x=0 and y=t and dx = 0 and dy = 1 so I get ∫t dt from 1 to 0. which gives a -1/2
 
Bamboozled91 said:
Yah sorry about not showing too much work but that would require a ton of typing and I am lazy. Other than that, I think I have solved it. I found that the line integral over x=0 would cancel out. As for y=0, I determined it to be -1/2 so when I add -1/2 to pi/4+1/6. I get pi/4-1/3 which is correct. Let me show my work at least for the part I just did x=0 and y=t and dx = 0 and dy = 1 so I get ∫t dt from 1 to 0. which gives a -1/2

That's it all right.
 

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