How do I find the length of a curve using calculus?

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of a curve defined by the equation x = y^(2/3) over the interval 1 ≤ y ≤ 8. Participants are exploring the setup of the integral required for this calculation and discussing the application of relevant formulas from calculus.

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  • Participants are attempting to set up the integral for the curve length and are questioning whether their formulations are correct. There are discussions about applying the formula for arc length and the implications of reversing variables. Some participants express difficulty with the integral itself and consider alternative approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance and alternative perspectives on the integral setup. Some have suggested different formulations that may simplify the problem, while others are still grappling with the integration process. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the amount of assistance they can provide to one another. There is also a noted confusion regarding the correct limits of integration and the application of derivatives in the context of the arc length formula.

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Homework Statement



Find the length of the curve
x=y2/3, 1≤y≤8

Homework Equations


i want to see if i set this up right. and if so then how did i get started on this integral. seems really hard...

The Attempt at a Solution

L= ∫ (from 1to 8) √(1+2/3y-1/3)dy
 
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MozAngeles said:

Homework Statement



Find the length of the curve
x=y2/3, 1≤y≤8

Homework Equations


i want to see if i set this up right. and if so then how did i get started on this integral. seems really hard...


The Attempt at a Solution

L= ∫ (from 1to 8) √(1+2/3y-1/3)dy

My boy, I've gone and went to wikipedia and found a certain equation for use

[tex]s = \sqrt{1+f'(x)^2}[/tex]

So I went about applying that there formula

[tex]y = x^{\frac{3}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]y' = \frac{3}{2} x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]
[tex]s = \sqrt{1+\frac{9}{4} x}[/tex]

I figure you've best be able to know the next step from here. Remember, though, the integration goes from 1 to 4 for x instead of the 1 to 8 for y.
 
[tex]s = \int \sqrt{1+f'(x)^2}\, dx[/tex]
[tex]s = \int \sqrt{1+\frac{9}{4} x} \, dx[/tex]
I've gone and forgot my integrals, boy.
 
well that was basically, i mean i already knew that formula, what i had only reversed for the x and y. i still can't figure the integral out :/
 
MozAngeles said:
well that was basically, i mean i already knew that formula, what i had only reversed for the x and y. i still can't figure the integral out :/

Boy, I cannot understand your words too well, but I will tell you that I solved for y to make for an easier integral. Now, I'm sure your integral is possible, but it seems much harder than the one I've constructed, which can be solved by a single u substitution.

Though, if you truly want to suffer that there strife, I'll go on and give you a fixin'. See, you've not squared that there y. You're really lookin' for this answer

[tex]s = \int \limits_{1}^{8} \sqrt{1+\frac{4}{9}y^{-\frac{2}{3}}}[/tex]
 
sorry, its late. thanks for the help though. it just clicked.
 

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