How do I find the points where the electric field is zero?

In summary: I just can't remember how to do Gauss' law right now).In summary, the conversation discusses a question about electric fields and charges shown in a figure. The question is labeled as conceptual, so no magnitudes were given for the charges. The person originally thought the electric field past point 7 was the solution, but that was wrong. They then considered point 1 and no point at which the electric field is zero, but these guesses were also incorrect. The conversation also mentions using Gauss' law to determine where the electric fields from the + and - charges got closest to zero, which was found to be to the right of the right-hand charge in (b).
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Mason Smith
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Homework Statement


Two pairs of charges are shown in Figure 1.
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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I originally thought that the electric field past point 7 (i.e. points 8,9, 10) was the solution. However, this is wrong. I then considered point 1, yet that was wrong too. I even considered that there was no point at which the electric field is zero. However, none of these guesses seem to be right. Where am I going wrong in my thinking?
 
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Mason Smith said:

Homework Statement


Two pairs of charges are shown in Figure 1. View attachment 112822

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I originally thought that the electric field past point 7 (i.e. points 8,9, 10) was the solution. However, this is wrong. I then considered point 1, yet that was wrong too. I even considered that there was no point at which the electric field is zero. However, none of these guesses seem to be right. Where am I going wrong in my thinking?
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

What are the magnitudes and signs of the 4 charges shown?
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

What are the magnitudes and signs of the 4 charges shown?

MasteringPhysics labeled this question as a conceptual question, so no magnitude was given for the charges.
 
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Mason Smith said:
MasteringPhysics labeled this question as a conceptual question, so no magnitude was given for the charges.
Actually, now that I zoom into the figure, I see the left-hand charges are +4 and the right charge in (a) is +1 and in (b) is -1.

So I would write Gauss' law for the charge configuration to see where the E-fields from the + and - charges got closest to zero (I agree it will be to the right of the right-hand-charge in (b)...
 
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FAQ: How do I find the points where the electric field is zero?

How do I determine the points where the electric field is zero?

To find the points where the electric field is zero, you can use the equation for electric field, which is E = kq/r^2, where k is a constant, q is the charge, and r is the distance from the source of the electric field. Set E equal to zero and solve for r to find the points where the electric field is zero.

What factors can affect the location of points where the electric field is zero?

The location of points where the electric field is zero can be affected by the magnitude and distribution of charges, as well as the distance between the charges and the point in question. Additionally, the presence of other external electric fields can also influence the location of these points.

Can there be multiple points where the electric field is zero?

Yes, there can be multiple points where the electric field is zero. This depends on the configuration and distribution of charges, as well as the surrounding environment.

Is it possible for the electric field to be zero at all points in a given space?

No, it is not possible for the electric field to be zero at all points in a given space. This is because there will always be some presence of charges or external electric fields that will affect the electric field at various points in the space.

How can I experimentally determine the points where the electric field is zero?

One way to experimentally determine the points where the electric field is zero is by using a test charge and moving it around the space in question. At the points where the test charge experiences no force, the electric field is zero. This can also be done using specialized equipment such as an electric field sensor.

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