How Do I Integrate Factors in Round 2 to Achieve the Proper Form for Processing?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of factors in a differential equation, specifically the equation y' (1+e^t) + e^ty = 0. Participants are exploring how to manipulate this equation into the standard form y' + f(t)y = f(p) for further processing.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest dividing both sides of the equation by (1+e^t) to isolate terms and identify f(t). There is discussion about the implications of manipulating the equation when the right-hand side is zero, and some participants express confusion regarding the meaning of 'p' in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Guidance has been offered regarding the division of the equation by (1+e^t), and some participants are clarifying their understanding of the steps involved. There is acknowledgment of past confusion due to incorrect information, but the current discussion appears to be progressing positively.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention previous experiences with incorrect answer keys and express concern about the validity of certain algebraic manipulations, particularly when dealing with a zero right-hand side.

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Homework Statement



[tex]y' (1+e^t) + e^ty = 0[/tex]

How do I get it in the form

[tex]y' +f(t)y = f(p)[/tex]

That is how do apply algebra to this so it is in the proper form to process it?

The Attempt at a Solution



Kind of hard to post my attempt. I can move the y' (1+e^2) to the right side then divide both sides by y' but that doesn't make it y' + something, rather y' x something.

I also tried moving everything to the right and canceling some stuff out but it doesn't seem to work.
 
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Divide both sides by (1+e^t). Then read off f(t). What's f(p)?
 
Try dividing throughout by [itex](1+e^t)[/itex].
 
Dick said:
Divide both sides by (1+e^t). Then read off f(t). What's f(p)?

[tex]f(p)[/tex] becomes

[tex](e^ty)/(1+e^t)[/tex]

giving equation


[tex]y' + (e^ty)/(1+e^t) = 0[/tex]

Are you saying it is allowed to do this step even though the right hand side is zero? I always thought this was a no-no.
 
You aren't dividing by the RHS. You're dividing by (1+e^t). I'm still bothered by what 'p' is supposed to be. You've got f(t)=e^t/(1+e^t) alright.
 
Dick said:
You aren't dividing by the RHS. You're dividing by (1+e^t). I'm still bothered by what 'p' is supposed to be. You've got f(t)=e^t/(1+e^t) alright.

Gotcha. Thankyou so much. I got messed up a few weeks ago when I was given an assignment by my teacher with the wrong answer key. This is now going well. Thankyou thankyou! Thankyou
 

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