How Do I Solve Complex Equations with Different Lambda Values?

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The discussion revolves around solving complex equations involving different lambda values, specifically focusing on the problem presented in Question 3.b. Participants are attempting to equate real and imaginary parts of arctan(1/4) to find values for lambda.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are equating real and imaginary parts of a complex function and questioning the validity of their results, as they arrive at different values for lambda. There is also discussion about the interpretation of arctan and its implications for the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the interpretation of the equations and the use of previous results to find a single value for lambda. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the representation of variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential confusion arising from using 'x' to represent lambda, suggesting alternative symbols for clarity. There is also mention of the ratio of real to imaginary parts being significant in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Question 3.b. - http://imgur.com/ztLiRvx

Homework Equations


For the sake of simplicity, let's assume that lambda = x.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried equating the real an imaginary parts of arctan(1/4).
Real: x/2 + 3 = 4. This gives x = 2.
Imaginary: x/2 - 3 = 1. This gives x = 8.
I'm getting two different values of x(lambda).
 
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Banker said:

Homework Statement


Question 3.b. - http://imgur.com/ztLiRvx

Homework Equations


For the sake of simplicity, let's assume that lambda = x.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried equating the real an imaginary parts of arctan(1/4).
Real: x/2 + 3 = 4. This gives x = 2.
Imaginary: x/2 - 3 = 1. This gives x = 8.
I'm getting two different values of x(lambda).
##\displaystyle arg(z) = tan^{-1}\left(\frac{Im(z)}{Re(z)}\right) \ ##

so you only know the ratio of the real to imaginary parts. It's not that the real part is 4 and the imaginary part is 1 .
 
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Banker said:

Homework Statement


Question 3.b. - http://imgur.com/ztLiRvx

Homework Equations


For the sake of simplicity, let's assume that lambda = x.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried equating the real an imaginary parts of arctan(1/4).
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I don't know what you're doing. arctan(1/4) means the angle (number) whose tangent is 1/4.
Banker said:
Real: x/2 + 3 = 4. This gives x = 2.
Imaginary: x/2 - 3 = 1. This gives x = 8.
No.
If z = x I iy, then arg(z) = arctan(y/x).

Use the result from part a of this problem and the above to find ##\lambda## -- there is a single value.
Banker said:
I'm getting two different values of x(lambda).
 
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@Mark44 In my original attempt, I tried to reverse the process you mentioned, but as Sammy pointed out, it only tells the ratio.
So I then divided the equations for the imaginary and real parts in part 'a' and got 10 as my answer. So that will give 68 as the answer to the second part of 3.b, right?
 
Banker said:
@Mark44 In my original attempt, I tried to reverse the process you mentioned, but as Sammy pointed out, it only tells the ratio.
So I then divided the equations for the imaginary and real parts in part 'a' and got 10 as my answer. So that will give 68 as the answer to the second part of 3.b, right?
Yes, those are correct, although we generally like to see details of how you worked it out. That makes it easier for us to check your answer.

By the way, if you click on the big " Σ " in the blue menu bar at top of the message window, you will have easy access to many characters, including λ . Otherwise, it would be wise to use almost any other letter to represent λ, other than x, y, or z . Upper case L would have been a good choice.
 
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