How do I solve the summation of a sequence for my homework?

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The discussion revolves around solving the summation of a sequence involving the general term T_n = 1/((√n)(√(n+1))(√n + √(n+1))). Participants provide hints on simplifying the term by rationalizing the denominator and recognizing patterns in the sequence. The simplification leads to the expression T_n = 1/√n - 1/√(n+1), which reveals a telescoping nature in the series. Ultimately, the sum of the first ten terms is calculated, resulting in 19/120 after considering the remaining terms. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the simplification process and recognizing patterns in sequences for solving summations effectively.
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Homework Statement


What is the sum of:
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N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm unsure how to start.

Note: I'm in Grade 10, so I may not have the mathematical skills necessary to understand the solutions you provide.

Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
 
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Hi S.R.! :smile:

Hint: each term is 1/√n√n+1(√n + √n+1) …

but what is 1/(√n + √n+1) ? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi S.R.! :smile:

Hint: each term is 1/√n√n+1(√n + √n+1) …

but what is 1/(√n + √n+1) ? :wink:

Assuming n+1 isn't inclusive: 1/(2√n+1). I'm not sure what to do with this information (if I'm correct, that is).
 
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S.R said:
Assuming n+1 isn't inclusive: 1/(2√n+1). I'm not sure what to do with this information (if I'm correct, that is).

Nope, n+1 is inclusive.

The general term is

T_n = \frac{1}{(\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n+1})(\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1})}

But, how can you simplify this part of the above equation?

\frac{1}{(\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1})}

Hint:Rationalize...
 
another hint:

nobody likes square-roots on the bottom

nobody minds square-roots on the top :wink:
 
Infinitum said:
Nope, n+1 is inclusive.

The general term is

T_n = \frac{1}{(\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n+1})(\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1})}

But, how can you simplify this part of the above equation?

\frac{1}{(\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{n+1})}

Hint:Rationalize...

Oh of course, √(n+1)-√n.
 
S.R said:
Oh of course, √(n+1)-√n.

Yep! Now, what did you do next?

Edit : maybe its just too simple from here :biggrin:
 
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Infinitum said:
Yep! Now, what did you do next?

Edit : maybe its just too simple from here :biggrin:

Simplifying the general expression, T(n)=(sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n))^2. However, I'm stuck here. Is there an applicable formula?
 
S.R said:
Simplifying the general expression, T(n)=(sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n))^2. However, I'm stuck here. Is there an applicable formula?

Uhh, where'd get that whole square from?? :confused:

The simplification from the general term will yield you a difference of two terms. You can write them as

T_1 = A_2 - A_1
T_2 = A_3 - A_2

and so on. The sum of all terms is the sum of the series. Can you notice something in the above equations that makes solving this easier?
 
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S.R said:
Simplifying the general expression, T(n)=(sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n))^2.

nooo, Tn = (√(n+1) - √n)/√n√(n+1) = … ? :smile:
 
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Sorry I misread from my iPhone. However, the simplification from the general term is sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n)/sqrt(n)sqrt(n+1) = sqrt(n)-sqrt(n+1).

From your explanation I noticed, Tn=An+1-An.

Note that the extra terms are suppose to be subscrippts.
 
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  • #12
S.R said:
Sorry I misread from my iPhone. However, the simplification from the general term is sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n)/sqrt(n)sqrt(n+1) = sqrt(n)-sqrt(n+1).

From your explanation I noticed, Tn=Tn+1-Tn.

Note that the extra terms are suppose to be subscrippts.

That would make 2T_n = T_{n+1} which is untrue. :wink: Its better to use different term letters for it. So, what do you get from that relation, by summing it all up?
 
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S.R said:
Sorry I misread from my iPhone. However, the simplification from the general term is sqrt(n+1)-sqrt(n)/sqrt(n)sqrt(n+1) = sqrt(n)-sqrt(n+1).

no!
 
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tiny-tim said:
no!

Im unsure why not? I am not sure if my division is correct though.

Edit: Sorry, I was replying in English class and got distracted :smile:.
 
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S.R said:
Im unsure why not? I am not sure if my division is correct though.

Its wrong :-p

Tn = \frac{\sqrt{n+1} - \sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n+1}}Give it another go, and write out the answer :smile:
 
  • #16
Infinitum said:
Its wrong :-p

Tn = \frac{\sqrt{n+1} - \sqrt{n}}{\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n+1}}


Give it another go, and write out the answer :smile:

Tn=1/sqrt(n)-1/sqrt(n+1)?
 
  • #17
S.R said:
Tn=1/sqrt(n)-1/sqrt(n+1)?

Yep. Now apply the logic I suggested in post #9 and #12.
 
  • #18
Infinitum said:
Yep. Now apply the logic I suggested in post #9 and #12.
I don't notice any patterns to find the sum?
 
  • #19
S.R said:
I don't notice any patterns to find the sum?

Can you write out the first ten terms of the sum to see if you notice anything??
 
  • #20
micromass said:
Can you write out the first ten terms of the sum to see if you notice anything??

The sum is 9/10. Correct?
 
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I still don't understand how you came up with the general form of the sequence, though?
 
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S.R said:
I still don't understand how you came up with the general form of the sequence, though?

what is \Sigma_5^{21}\ \left(\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1}\right) ? :wink:
 
  • #23
tiny-tim said:
what is \Sigma_5^{21}\ \left(\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1}\right) ? :wink:

The terms 1/5 and -1/24 are left after summation, therefore 19/120. However, my question is how did you obtain: Tn=1/(sqrt(n)sqrt(n+1))((sqrt(n+1)+sqrt(n))? Sorry for the notation.
 
  • #24
S.R said:
The terms 1/5 and -1/24 are left after summation, therefore 19/120. However, my question is how did you obtain: Tn=1/(sqrt(n)sqrt(n+1))((sqrt(n+1)+sqrt(n))? Sorry for the notation.

√n√(n+1)(√n + √(n+1)) = n√(n+1) + (n+1)√n
 
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tiny-tim said:
√n√(n+1)(√n + √(n+1)) = n√(n+1) + (n+1)√n

Thanks!
 
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