How do I solve these integrals involving trigonometric functions?

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The discussion revolves around solving integrals involving trigonometric functions, specifically focusing on integrals that include sine, cosine, secant, and tangent. The original poster presents two integral problems and seeks assistance in finding their solutions.

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  • Participants discuss various attempts at using substitution methods, particularly focusing on the substitution of variables such as u = sin x and u = cos x. There are questions about the application of the power rule and the manipulation of terms in the integrals.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral and how to apply substitution correctly. Some have provided guidance on using the power rule, while others express confusion about the steps involved in the integration process.

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Participants are grappling with the correct application of integration techniques and the implications of their substitutions. There is a noted lack of consensus on certain steps, particularly regarding the manipulation of terms and the application of the power rule.

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Find the integral...Please HELP!

Homework Statement



Find the integral involving sin, cos, sec, and tan:
A. sin^3x * sqrt(cosx)dx
B. sec^3(2x) * tan(2x)dx

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The Attempt at a Solution


I will start with part A first...
A. sin^3x * sqrt(cosx) dx
sin^2*x * sqrt(cosx) * sinx dx
(1-cos^2*x) * sqrt(cosx) * sinx dx
sinx * sqrt(cosx) - sinx * cosx dx

but not I don't know what to do??
 
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You did well, but just stop on the second last line, make a substitution u= sin x, then you have a simple integral in powers of u no?
 
So I stop here...

(1-cos^2*x) * sqrt(cosx) * sinx dx

?

I am not understanding how to use u-substitution with this? u = sinx, du = cosx but that's not it?
 
SOrry sorry! I meant u=cos x, du = -sin x dx.
 
Umm but I am still not understanding lol I am sorry...

(1-cos^2*x) * sqrt(cosx) * sinx dx

u=cos x, du = -sin x dx

So if I do u^1/2 the integral is 2/3 * u^3/2

but that only gets me... sqrt(cosx) * -sinx dx

right??
 
When you make the substitution,

\int (1- \cos^2 x) \sqrt{\cos x} \sin x dx = - \int (1-u^2) \sqrt{u} du = -\int ( u^{1/2} - u^{5/2}) du

You should be able to finish it off with the power rule, and replace back in u=cos x at the end.
 
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so if I leave it at...

1 - u^2 * sqrt(u) du

I could write it asx - cosx^2 * sqrt(cosx)
 
Did you follow my last post :( ? Do you know how to integrate those terms I had in the last post?
 
woops that wasn't done right...

(x - 1/3*cosx^3) * 2/3*sqrt(cosx)^3/2

can I write it like this...I know its not completely reduced yet but I will do that.
 
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Well when I evaluate the integral I posted, I get 2\cos^{3/2} x \left( \frac{1}{3} - \frac{\cos^2 x}{7}} \right)
 
  • #11
Why am I not understanding this...

(1-u^2) * 2/3 u^3/2

so I plug u=cosx back in and integrate...

(x - 1/3*cosx^3) * 2/3*(cosx)^3/2

can you show me how you got your answer?
 
  • #12
Do you follow post 6? I get my answer from post 6 by directly using the power rule.
 
  • #13
I thought it would be...

u^3/2 - u^5/2
 
  • #14
\int\sin^3 x\sqrt{\cos x}dx

\int(1-\cos^2 x)\sqrt{\cos x}\sin xdx

u=\cos x
du=-\sin xdx

-\int(1-u^2)\sqrt udu

-\int(u^{\frac 1 2}-u^{\frac 5 2})du
 
  • #15
BuBbLeS01 said:
I thought it would be...

u^3/2 - u^5/2

Check the power rule again.

rocomath said:
\int\sin^3 x\sqrt{\cos x}dx

\int(1-\cos^2 x)\sqrt{\cos x}\sin xdx

u=\cos x
du=-\sin xdx

-\int(1-u^2)\sqrt udu

-\int(u^{\frac 1 2}-u^{\frac 5 2})du

I believe that was already well established in this thread.
 
  • #16
Okay I don't know why I am not seeing what you are doing but when you have...
(1-u^2) * sqrt u

don't you multiply u^1/2 by (1-u^2) ?

and get u^1/2 - u^3/2

so I don't understand why the second term is ^5/2?
 
  • #17
BuBbLeS ... what is 1.5 and 2.5 in fractions?
 
  • #18
BuBbLeS01 said:
Okay I don't know why I am not seeing what you are doing but when you have...
(1-u^2) * sqrt u

don't you multiply u^1/2 by (1-u^2) ?

and get u^1/2 - u^3/2

so I don't understand why the second term is ^5/2?

x^a\cdot x^b = x^a^+^b

Now add 1/2 and 2.
 
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OMG I feel like such an IDIOT right now...thanks!
 

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