How do I solve this tricky calculus substitution question?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a definite integral involving a continuous function f, specifically the integral of f(x) divided by the sum of f(x) and f(a-x) from 0 to a. The original poster expresses difficulty in applying the suggested substitution and seeks guidance on how to approach the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts the substitution u = a - x but finds the resulting integral equally challenging. They question how adding this new integral to the original one aids in solving the problem.
  • Some participants suggest reversing the limits of integration after substitution and discuss the implications of dummy variables in the context of the integral.
  • There is confusion regarding the relationship between the integrands after substitution and whether the final answer should be adjusted based on the new integrand.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the integral and the effects of substitution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of limits and the nature of dummy variables, leading to further questions about the integrand and its implications for the final result.

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The original poster references a textbook problem and expresses concern over the correctness of their approach and the relationship between different integrands. There is mention of specific function evaluations, such as f(x) = x and f(x) = x^2, which are used to test understanding of the integral's behavior.

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Homework Statement



if f is a continuous function, find the value of the integral

I = definte integral int [ f(x) / f(x) + f(a-x) ] dx from 0 to a. by making the substitution u = a - x and adding the resulting integral to I.

this is one of the last questions in the thomas international edition calculus on substitution, for the life of me i can't see how to do this, a pointer on where to attack this would be very helpful, as i can't let it go!

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ive obviously used the substitution which was in the question, but it doesn't really help, as when i change the variable, the resulting integral is just as bad, and i don't know how adding it to the I helps, i substituted f(x) = x, into the integral and got the answer a/2, but i can't repeat it for any other random functions. I believe a/2 is the right answer but how i got it was not the right method. help
 
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It's not that bad. It's just confusing. If you do the suggested substitution, your integrand is f(a-u)/(f(u)+f(a-u))*(-du). But now you should realize that instead of integrating x from 0 to a, you are integrating u from a to 0. So reverse the limits of integration introducing a - sign. This kills the minus sign on the du. Now do the harmless substitution u=x (it's just a dummy variable) and add it to your original integral. What's the integrand? What's your conclusion?
 
Oh, yeah, and welcome to the forums.
 
thanks very much for the reply, i followed your advice and the integrand i had was 1, which in turn leads to a when integrated, I am a little confused over the dummy variable, is u=x because the limits of the integrand are still [0-a] when reversed? also the answer in the book is a/2, does this mean i have to half the answer as i have added another integrand and if so how does this work as the new integrand is of a different value as the numerator is f(a-x) on the new one as opposed to f(x) on the original which i also verifed when i put f(x) = x^2 into the new integrand trying to understand how it actually works. or have i calculated wrong??
 
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forget that last reply, i figured it out this morning when i woke with a fresh head. the graphs have the same area but the new one comes from the other side, when f(x) = 0, then f(a-x)= a, when f(x)= a the f(a-x) = 0. painfully obvious now.
this is website is a great idea, thanks again for your help
 
chewy said:
forget that last reply, i figured it out this morning when i woke with a fresh head. the graphs have the same area but the new one comes from the other side, when f(x) = 0, then f(a-x)= a, when f(x)= a the f(a-x) = 0. painfully obvious now.
this is website is a great idea, thanks again for your help

You've got it. You're welcome.
 

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