How Do Levenspiel Plots Determine CSTR Volume for Increasing Reaction Rates?

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The discussion revolves around the use of Levenspiel plots in determining the volume of a Continuous Stirred Tank Reactor (CSTR) when the reaction rate increases with conversion. Participants explore how to interpret the areas under the plot to calculate the necessary reactor volume for different conversion levels.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding how to determine the appropriate area on a Levenspiel plot for a CSTR when the reaction rate increases with conversion.
  • Another participant questions the implications of a lower conversion rate (X = 0.15) on the required reactor volume, suggesting that a larger reactor may be needed for less conversion.
  • A participant shares a link to additional resources that may provide further context or clarification on the topic.
  • There is a repeated inquiry about why a specific area (orange box) is used instead of another (green box) for calculating the reactor volume, indicating confusion over the graphical interpretation.
  • A later reply suggests that the area of interest is geometrically represented by the formula \(\frac{F}{-r} \times X\), asserting that this corresponds to the area of the orange box on the plot.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the interpretation of the Levenspiel plot for increasing reaction rates, with multiple viewpoints and questions remaining unresolved.

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Limitations in understanding the graphical representation and the specific conditions under which the areas are calculated are noted, but not resolved.

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Hello,

I am having some difficulty with levenspiel plots, in particular when dealing with a CSTR and when the reaction rate is increasing with conversion. I will give an example plot to demonstrate my point.

Assume we are trying to find the volume of a CSTR necessary to reach a conversion of X = 0.5, with the levenspiel plot given below

What I wonder, is how do I figure out what area should be taken, and why? I initially thought it would be the one in green, but I am missing something important here as far as how to use the levenspiel plot. When it is the other way around (reaction rate is decreasing with temperature), I can figure it out usually, but I seem to be missing something subtle.
 

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This problem raises more questions yet still, what if X = 0.15? That is 0.15*400,000 = 60,000 m^3. Does that mean this reactor needs to be larger to have less conversion?
 

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From that page, when it is normal plots (i.e. slope is up with X increases) I am good. It's only for the very specific case I gave that I am having some trouble. Why is it that it is the orange box, and not the green box for the area?
 
Maylis said:
From that page, when it is normal plots (i.e. slope is up with X increases) I am good. It's only for the very specific case I gave that I am having some trouble. Why is it that it is the orange box, and not the green box for the area?
You need to find \frac{F}{-r}\times X. Geometrically (on the graph), that's the area of the orange box.

Chet
 
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