How Do Newton Rings Help Calculate Lens Curvature?

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This discussion revolves around a Newton rings experiment, where a lens is placed on a flat surface to create interference patterns. The original poster presents measurements of the diameters of the first five rings and describes their attempts to analyze the data by plotting the square of the diameter against the ring number. They seek to calculate the radius of curvature of the lens and subsequently its power.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the plotted data and the theoretical equations, questioning the accuracy of measurements and unit conversions. There is an exploration of how to derive the radius of curvature from the slope of the graph and the implications of the y-intercept.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the equations used and the importance of units. There is ongoing dialogue about the accuracy of the original poster's calculations and the plausibility of the results. Suggestions for improving measurement techniques and ensuring proper unit usage have been made.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with unit conversions and measurement accuracy, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of the scales used in the experiment. There is also mention of the original poster's reliance on a Vernier scale for measurements, which raises questions about the precision of the data collected.

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Homework Statement



These are problems from a Newton rings experiment where a lens was placed on a flat surface and the interference patterns created Newton rings. I measured the diameter of the first five rings and then plotted a graph of d^2 against N (number of the individual ring).

These are my x and y values:

N D^2
1 0.011 mm
2 0.019 mm
3 0.029 mm
4 0.038 mm
5 0.048 mm

From this, I found the slope of the graph and the intercept of the line on the y-axis as I got an equation of y=0.0093x+ 0.0011. From this, I was told to graphically calculate r (radius of curvature of unknown lens) and then calculate r for each ring using the formula d^2 = 4 (lamba) r N + constant where lamba = 589.3 nm and the constant is the y-intercept.

This is what the first question is asking...
1. What is the radius of curvature of this lens? Show your results as separate calculations for each value of N. After doing this, I am required to calculate the power of the lens, assuming the refractive index of the lens is 1.523.

Homework Equations



y=0.0093x+0.0011 which translates to...
d^2 = [4*lamba*r]N + b

F = n'-n/r (for power of the lens after finding r)

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first part where it says graphically calculate r from the slope:

y=0.0093x + 0.0011

I am unsure how to get radius from this...

I tried:
9300 nm^2 = 4 (589.3 nm)(r)
r = 3.95 mm but this seems incorrect...

I would really appreciate help on this!
 
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bondgirl007 said:

Homework Statement



These are problems from a Newton rings experiment where a lens was placed on a flat surface and the interference patterns created Newton rings. I measured the diameter of the first five rings and then plotted a graph of d^2 against N (number of the individual ring).

These are my x and y values:

N D^2
1 0.011 mm
2 0.019 mm
3 0.029 mm
4 0.038 mm
5 0.048 mm
Please check the units of D^2 in that table.

Are these D^2 or D?
How did you measure to such a high level of accuracy?

From this, I found the slope of the graph and the intercept of the line on the y-axis as I got an equation of y=0.0093x+ 0.0011.
Since you plotted D^2 vs N, you do not have x and y values. You have N and D^2 values. Your equation should be:

D^2=(0.0093)N+(0.0011) mm2

Never use generic variables.
Always include units.

From this, I was told to graphically calculate r (radius of curvature of unknown lens) and then calculate r for each ring using the formula d^2 = 4 (lamba) r N + constant where lamba = 589.3 nm and the constant is the y-intercept.
What color corresponds to that wavelength?
Does that match the color you used?

This is what the first question is asking...
1. What is the radius of curvature of this lens? Show your results as separate calculations for each value of N.
So you compared the theoretical equation with the equation you determined experimentally.

you have
theory: d^2 = 4λrN + c
experiment: d^2 = (0.0093mm)N + (0.0011mm)
therefore: 4λr=?

I tried:
9300 nm^2 = 4 (589.3 nm)(r)
r = 3.95 mm but this seems incorrect...
... that does seem a tad small. What sort of radius would be plausible?
Note: 0.0093mm2 ≠ 9300nm2
 
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Thanks for your reply and tidying up my equation!

4λr should equal 0.0093 mm. I tried plugging it in as follows and still get the same answer..

0.0093 mm = 4(0.0005893mm)r
r= 3.95 mm

These measurements were obtained using a Vernier scale, thus they are to three decimal places.
The final answer, which is the surface power of the lens and obtained using the equation (n'-n)/R is around +1.5, which would mean the radius of curvature is around 0.35 m. I am not sure if my units are off with the decimals...
 
I think you have misplaced the decimal point - yes.
If 4λr=0.093mm, then r=39.5cm - which is the right order of magnitude.

A micrometer scale makes more sense for vernier calipers too.

For the future: you should make some effort to get a crude measurement (scientific estimate) for important properties as a kind-of reality check. The curve of the glass could have been traced, or you could work it out by rocking it and sighting the angle. This is stuff you learn from experience... it gets so you don't even notice yourself doing it half the time.
 

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