How Do Symmetry Properties Affect the Terms in a Fourier Series?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of Fourier series in relation to the symmetry of periodic functions about a specific point, x=a. Participants are tasked with demonstrating how these symmetry properties dictate the presence of cosine or sine terms in the Fourier series expansion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of symmetry and antisymmetry on the Fourier series terms, questioning how to set up integrals that reflect these properties. There is discussion about the nature of cosine and sine functions in relation to symmetry about the point x=a.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding the setup of integrals and the relationships between symmetric and asymmetric functions. There is an ongoing exploration of how these relationships affect the Fourier coefficients, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach or solution.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to demonstrate the relationship between function symmetry and the resulting Fourier series terms. There is mention of specific integral limits and the need for clarity on the implications of symmetry in the context of Fourier analysis.

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Homework Statement
Suppose, in turn, that the periodic function is symmetric or antisymmetric about the point x=a. Show that the Fourier series contains, respectively, only cos(k_{n}(x-a)) (including the a_0) or sin(k_{n}(x-a)) terms.


2. Homework Equations

The Fourier expansion for the periodic function, f(x):
f(x)=a_0 + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(a_{n}cos(k_{n}x) + b_{n}sin(k_{n}x))

a_0=\frac{1}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x) dxa_n=\frac{2}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x)c os(k_{n}x) dx, n\neq0

b_n=\frac{2}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x)s in(k_{n}x) dx, (b_0=0)

k= \frac{2n\pi}{\lambda}\qquad \lambda=period

Hint: An integral centered on a point where the integrand is antisymmetric will vanish.

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe I understand what they are saying, but I do not know how to show/prove it. I know that cosine is symmetric about a point, while sine is not. Initially I was thinking that since sine is antisymmetric, for f(x) to be symmetric, the sine terms cannot exist in the expansion (which is exactly what the problem states). I was thinking the same for the opposite case regarding cosines.

The hint leads me to believe I am supposed to set up an integral. However, I do not understand how.

If I am to set up an integral, the best I can figure is that the lower limit should be a-\lambda and the upper limit should be a+\lambda

I think this because for the integral to be centered at point "a", we would need to go 1 full period in both directions.

I do not know what to do next
 
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bossman007 said:
Homework Statement
Suppose, in turn, that the periodic function is symmetric or antisymmetric about the point x=a. Show that the Fourier series contains, respectively, only cos(k_{n}(x-a)) (including the a_0) or sin(k_{n}(x-a)) terms.


2. Homework Equations

The Fourier expansion for the periodic function, f(x):$$
f(x)=a_0 + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(a_{n}cos(k_{n}x) + b_{n}sin(k_{n}x))$$
$$a_0=\frac{1}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x) dx$$
$$a_n=\frac{2}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x)c os(k_{n}x) dx, n\neq 0$$
$$b_n=\frac{2}{\lambda}\int_{x_0}^{x_0+\lambda}f(x)s in(k_{n}x) dx, (b_0=0)$$
$$k= \frac{2n\pi}{\lambda}\qquad \lambda={\hbox period.}$$

Just fixed your tex to make it readable. You should preview your posts before submitting them.
 
Put "itex" "/itex" [in brackets] around your codes to make them readable.

Edit: KCKurtz beat me to it, and then some.
 
As a more useful hint, first try the a_{0} term, and use a function about the point x = 0. What is the integral of a function that is asymmetric about the origin, from [-L, L] ?

Then, if you multiply a function that is asymmetric with one that is symmetric? What kind of symmetry does the resulting function have? What would be the integral of this function?

Do the same thing for asymmetric times asymmetric and symmetric times symmetric. What does this tell you about the integrals used to find your Fourier coefficients?

Example: f(x) = x, which is asymmetric about the origin (i.e. it's odd):
I'm just going to use a period of 2 so the integrals are easier. This would also be called the "odd extension of x." Here are the integrals you would set up:

a_{0} = \frac{1}{2} \int_{-1}^{1} x dx

a_{n} = \frac{1}{2} \int_{-1}^{1} x cos(\frac{n\pi x}{2}) dx

b_{n} = \frac{1}{2} \int_{-1}^{1} x sin(\frac{n\pi x}{2}) dx

Do the necessary integration by parts, and you'll see what happens, then you could try f(x) = |x| for an even function. (you can make it piecewise to evaluate the integrals)

These relationships can be generalized to any point x = a about which a periodic function is symmetric/asymmetric, as the question suggests, but I'll leave it up to you to show that.

Also, nice username.
 
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thank u sir, with an awesome username too !

I understand everything that you're saying, I am just confused how the final answer is supposed to have cosk_n(x-a) in it, wheres that come from?
 
That comes from the fact that we also need cosine and sine to be symmetric/asymmetric about x=a. For example, note that sin and cosine have no particular symmetry about say, x = 5. The (x-a) term essentially shifts the functions from the origin, x=0, to x=a, so that they will exhibit the necessary symmetries at the same point as whatever f(x) we have.
 
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