How do the W and Z Gauge Bosons work in the weak nuclear force?

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The discussion revolves around the workings of W and Z gauge bosons in the context of the weak nuclear force. Participants explore various interactions involving these bosons, including charged current interactions and weak nuclear decay, while seeking clarity on their roles and mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a process where a neutrino with a W+ boson interacts with a neutron, changing a bottom quark to an up quark, thus converting the neutron into a proton, with the neutrino turning into an electron.
  • Another participant presents an alternative explanation where a down quark in a neutron emits a W- boson, changing into an up quark, resulting in a neutron becoming a proton, with the W- boson decaying into an electron and an antineutrino.
  • Some participants propose that both explanations are valid, representing different weak interactions: charged current interaction for the first and weak nuclear decay for the second.
  • Questions arise regarding the mechanics of the Z boson, with participants seeking to understand its role as a neutral carrier and why it is necessary in certain interactions.
  • Clarifications are made about the conservation of charge in interactions involving W bosons, with emphasis on how the choice of W+ or W- depends on the charge being conserved.
  • Participants express confusion about the notation of antiparticles in Feynman diagrams and the necessity of gauge bosons in mediating forces during particle collisions.
  • There is mention of the existence of many other interactions beyond those discussed, indicating a broader scope of weak interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that both explanations of weak interactions are valid but do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the Z boson's function or the mechanics of the interactions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the understanding of these processes.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the mechanics and purpose of the Z boson, highlighting limitations in their understanding of how it operates in weak interactions. There is also a lack of clarity on the full range of interactions involving W and Z bosons.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in particle physics, particularly those seeking to understand the weak nuclear force and the role of gauge bosons in particle interactions.

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I've seen explanations that when a neutrino with a W+ Boson comes near a neutron, it affects one of the bottom quarks and changes it to a up quark which effectively turns the neutron into a proton. The neutrino then turns into an electron.

Source:

(2:20 onwards)

I've seen other explanations which say that a down quark in a neutron emits a W- Boson and changes into a up quark, effectively turning the neutron into a proton. And then the W- Boson decays into an electron and antineutrino.

Source: http://atlas.physicsmasterclasses.org/en/zpath_radioactivity.htm

So which is the correct explanation?
And one more thing, I've searched many websites and I still can't find a good explanation for what exactly the Z boson does?
I get that it is neutral, but that's it.

Thanks to any help in advance. :)
 
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Both are correct, they're just describing different weak interactions. The first one is something called "charged current interaction", and can be shown schematically here: (time on the y axis)
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The second describes weak nuclear decay, schematically shown here:

These are just two examples of weak interactions. The boson that carries the weak force for any given reaction is the one that conserves electrical charge. Hence W+ in the first example, W- in the second. If no charge is carried, you use the Z boson. For example, the scattering of a neutrino and an electron:

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Does this clear things up?
 
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Hi,

Thank you very much for the reply.
I've never learned how Feynman diagrams work but after doing some more research, I think I understand the first two interactions. :)
I take it that both the first two interactions apply to both W+ and W- bosons? As in the first interaction can also happen with W- and the second can also happen with W+?
Also, a question on the second interaction, if the W- Boson decays into an electron and anti-neutrino, then why isn't the arrow of the anti-neutrino the other way?

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And I still don't understand how the Z boson works exactly. Does it carry "no charge" between particles? Why does it need to carry no charge? Can't the electron and neutrino collide and then scatter by themselves?
I'm still quite confused on the mechanics and purpose of the Z boson.
Also, are there any other interactions? Or is it just these three?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just really interested in this stuff.
Thanks again for the replies! :)
 
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Roroy said:
Hi,

Thank you very much for the reply.
I've never learned how Feynman diagrams work but after doing some more research, I think I understand the first two interactions. :)
I take it that both the first two interactions apply to both W+ and W- bosons? As in the first interaction can also happen with W- and the second can also happen with W+?
Also, a question on the second interaction, if the W- Boson decays into an electron and anti-neutrino, then why isn't the arrow of the anti-neutrino the other way?

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No, the arrow of anti-particles go in the opposite direction to that of the particles - this is notation, and harks back to the fact that antiparticles look like particles traveling backwards in time.

No, the choice of W+ or W- depends on the charge. You need to conserve charge at every vertex, so if you have a neutron turning into a proton, one unit of negative charge needs to be carried away by a W-, for a proton turning into a neutron, you need to carry away one unit of positive charge with the W+. So, with the above reactions, if instead you had a proton turning into a neutron, you'd have a W- in the first case, W+ in the second.
Roroy said:
And I still don't understand how the Z boson works exactly. Does it carry "no charge" between particles? Why does it need to carry no charge?

Like I said, you need to conserve charge at each vertex.

Can't the electron and neutrino collide and then scatter by themselves? I'm still quite confused on the mechanics and purpose of the Z boson.

That's exactly what that diagram shows! Collisions occur through some mediating force, which must be carried by a gauge boson. In this case, the weak force, and W+/W-/Z0. When electrons scatter off of each other, the force is mediated by a photon, the gauge boson for the electromagnetic force.

Also, are there any other interactions? Or is it just these three?

Many, many others! I alluded to a couple up at the top of this post, but there are many others beyond this! And I've only shown you the most simple version of the processes we've been discussing, too.
 

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