How do we find the sum of the roots in a quadratic equation?

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The discussion revolves around finding the sum of the roots of a quadratic equation, specifically the equation in the form x² + px + q = 0. Participants explore different methods to derive the sum of the roots, including expansions and the quadratic formula.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the setup for showing that the sum of the roots is -p and inquires if the discriminant is involved.
  • Another participant suggests expanding (x - a)(x - b) to derive the roots.
  • A participant provides the expanded form of (x - a)(x - b) and identifies the roots as x = a and x = b, seeking further steps.
  • One participant introduces the quadratic formula and derives that the sum of the roots S is -b/a, prompting others to apply this to the given quadratic.
  • A later reply confirms the application of the formula, substituting b with p and a with 1, resulting in -p.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to find the sum of the roots, but there is no explicit consensus on the necessity of the discriminant or other approaches.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the quadratic formula and its application are present, but they are not fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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Show that the sum of the roots of the equation

x^2 + px + q = 0 is -p.

I need help with the set up.

Is the discriminant involved here?
 
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What do you get when you expand (x - a)(x - b)?
 
greg1313 said:
What do you get when you expand (x - a)(x - b)?

(x - a)(x - b)

x^2 - bx - ax + ab

After factoring by grouping, I found the roots to be x = a and x = b.

What is next?
 
Here's another approach:

Suppose we have:

$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

Them by the quadratic formula, we have that the sum $S$ of the roots is given by:

$$S=\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}+\frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}=-\frac{b}{a}$$

Use this formula on the given quadratic...what do you find?
 
MarkFL said:
Here's another approach:

Suppose we have:

$$ax^2+bx+c=0$$

Them by the quadratic formula, we have that the sum $S$ of the roots is given by:

$$S=\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}+\frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}=-\frac{b}{a}$$

Use this formula on the given quadratic...what do you find?

Great job!

Ok. You said use -b/a.

Let b = p

Let a = 1

We get -p/1 = -p.

I got it!
 

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