How Do You Calculate Electric Field and Force in a Charged Square?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the electric field and force at a specific charge located at one corner of a square configuration, where each corner has a different charge. The square measures 2cm x 2cm, and the charges are specified as 1μC, 2μC, 3μC, and 4μC at the respective corners.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric fields due to multiple point charges and question the assumptions regarding the signs of the charges. There is an exploration of vector addition for electric fields and the direction of forces acting on the charges.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting calculations and questioning the methodology for determining directions and magnitudes. Some guidance has been offered regarding vector addition and the need for trigonometric considerations, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the assumption that all charges are positive, which affects the calculations. Additionally, the participants are navigating the implications of using the correct charge values in their calculations and the appropriate methods for vector addition.

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Homework Statement



A square has a charge at each corner. The square is 2cm x 2cm. In the upper left corner there is 1μc, in the upper right corner there is 2μc, the lower right corner there is 3μc, and the lower left corner there is 4μc.
A. What is the magnitude and direction of the electric field at the 4μc charge?
B. wha Tia the magnitude and direction of the force on the 4μc charge?

Homework Equations



E=kq/r^2. And F=EQ

The Attempt at a Solution



1. (9*10^9)(1*10^-6)/(.02)^2 = 2.25*10^7 N/C

2. Same process with 2*10^-6 to get. 4.5*10^7 N/ C

3. Same with 3*10^-6 to get 6.75*10^7 N/C

E net = 2.25+4.5+6.75=13.5*10^7 N/C.

But not sure how to get direction. Since they are all positive, would it be 45° SE?


For force, F=(13.5*10^7)(1.6*10^-19)=21.6*10^-12N.

How to get direction? Pythagorean to be used but how?
Any help is appreciated.
 
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The question hasn't explicitly stated that all charges are positive. This has to be assume to make it doable.

puzzledup said:

Homework Statement



A square has a charge at each corner. The square is 2cm x 2cm. In the upper left corner there is 1μc, in the upper right corner there is 2μc, the lower right corner there is 3μc, and the lower left corner there is 4μc.
A. What is the magnitude and direction of the electric field at the 4μc charge?
B. wha Tia the magnitude and direction of the force on the 4μc charge?

Homework Equations



E=kq/r^2. And F=EQ

The Attempt at a Solution



1. (9*10^9)(1*10^-6)/(.02)^2 = 2.25*10^7 N/C

Right.

2. Same process with 2*10^-6 to get. 4.5*10^7 N/ C

Wrong. What's the distance between the upper right and lower left corners?

3. Same with 3*10^-6 to get 6.75*10^7 N/C

Right.

E net = 2.25+4.5+6.75=13.5*10^7 N/C.

It's not simple addition. Electric field strength is a vector. Do vector addition.

But not sure how to get direction. Since they are all positive, would it be 45° SE?

Why SE? Shouldn't it be SW?


For force, F=(13.5*10^7)(1.6*10^-19)=21.6*10^-12N.

Isn't the charge at the lower left corner 4uC?

How to get direction? Pythagorean to be used but how?
Any help is appreciated.

Draw a force diagram. How would you add vectors?
 
So for 2. I should use Pythagorean - Sqrt(.02^2+.02^2)?
Ok for vector addition, tip to tail for E.
I believe SW would be right.

But what do you mean about the charge in lower left? Am I not supposed to use E times Q the constant at 1.6*10^-19? Or am I wrong about Q?
 
puzzledup said:
So for 2. I should use Pythagorean - Sqrt(.02^2+.02^2)?
Ok for vector addition, tip to tail for E.
I believe SW would be right.

SW is the general direction. It's not exactly SW because the magnitudes of the field strength in a Southward direction (due to the upper left corner) and that in a Westward direction (due to the lower right corner) are not identical. So you need to use trig to get the correct orientation of the resultant vector.

It's easiest to work out the equal component vectors (Southward and Westward) of the field strength due to the top right hand corner charge first. Then add up the Southern and Westward components of the three field strengths individually. Finally, use Pythagorean theorem to find the magnitude of the resultant, and use trig to find the direction.

But what do you mean about the charge in lower left? Am I not supposed to use E times Q the constant at 1.6*10^-19? Or am I wrong about Q?

Your (correct) units for field strength are N/C. Your charge is 4uC. How would you get the force (in Newton)?
 
Q the constant is in C, so would leave me with N.

This helps me a lot, Thanks so much!
 

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