How do you calculate magnetic field stregth outside a solenoid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on calculating the magnetic field strength outside a solenoid, particularly focusing on the variation of the field perpendicular to the solenoid's axis. Participants explore theoretical approaches and numerical methods for this calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Rob seeks assistance in understanding how to calculate the magnetic field strength at positions outside a solenoid, particularly off-axis.
  • Bob references Smythe's work, indicating that the vector potential and field components outside a single current loop involve elliptic integrals, and suggests that numerical integration may be necessary for a multiturn solenoid.
  • Rob mentions finding a magnetic field calculator that claims to compute fields outside and off-axis, but he has not yet tested it due to installation restrictions.
  • Bob confirms the correctness of the equation used by the calculator and discusses the elliptic integrals involved, suggesting that series expansions and recursion formulas can facilitate calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on a specific method for calculating the magnetic field outside a solenoid, and multiple approaches are discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of reliance on elliptic integrals and numerical methods, but no closed-form expression for the off-axis field of a multiturn solenoid is identified. The discussion also highlights the need for computational tools to assist in these calculations.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electromagnetic theory, particularly those looking to understand magnetic field calculations in solenoids and related computational methods.

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Hi,

I've have been searching for help in calculating the magnetic field strength at any given position outside a solenoid.
I can use Biot-Savart's to get the field along the axis of the solenoid but how does the field vary perpendicular to the axis of the solenoid, for example.

Rob
 
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The vector potential and the components of the field everywhere outside a single current loop is given by Smythe Static and Dynamic Electricity Third Edition, page 291, in terms of elliptic integrals. The field of a multiturn solenoid can be calculated using numerical integration. The fields can also be calculated using expressions involving Legendre polynomials on pages 293-4. I cannot find any closed-form expression for the off-axis field for a multi-turn solenoid. The on-axis field is given by the closed-from expression

http://www.netdenizen.com/emagnet/solenoids/thinsolenoid.htm

Bob S
 
Ok thanks Bob,
I had a look at the text and this is going to call for a simple(ish) computer code. In fact I have found a magnetic field calculator at this site

http://vizimag.com/calculator.htm

This says it does the fields outside and off axis. though haven't tried it yet, waiting for admin to let me install it.

Thanks again. Rob
 
Rsalmon-
The equation for the magnetic field near an aircore solenoid used by Visimag seems to be correct. It uses both elliptic integrals E(θ) and K(θ), as shown in Smythe. The series expansions for these elliptic integrals are in Dwight Tables of Integrals (Macmillan, 1947), paragraphs 773 and 774 on page 171. The recursion formulas for these series expansions are simple, and the integrals can be easily evaluated in a short subroutine.

Bob S
 

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