How Do You Calculate Tension and Acceleration in a Truck and Trailer System?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the tension and acceleration in a truck and trailer system, focusing on the forces acting on the system as it starts from rest on a level road. Participants explore the application of free body diagrams (FBDs) and the sum of forces in both the truck and trailer components.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem statement and expresses uncertainty about the correct application of the sum of forces and constant acceleration formulas.
  • Another participant suggests that the net external forces should be examined using free body diagrams, emphasizing the importance of breaking down the system into its components.
  • A participant attempts to describe their free body diagram for the trailer, noting the forces acting in the x-direction and questioning if the tension becomes an external force when analyzing the trailer alone.
  • It is noted that the trailer wheels do not exert a tractive force, which is relevant for understanding the forces acting on the trailer.
  • Further clarification is provided that the only force acting on the entire truck-trailer system is the tractive force, and participants are encouraged to solve for acceleration before revisiting the trailer's free body diagram to determine drawbar tension.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to analyze the system using free body diagrams and the importance of identifying internal versus external forces. However, there is no consensus on the specific calculations or methods to be used, and some uncertainty remains regarding the treatment of tension in the trailer.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of equations and the role of tension in the system. There are unresolved questions about the assumptions made in the analysis, particularly concerning the treatment of forces in the trailer and the overall system.

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Homework Statement



The 10-Mg truck hauls the 20-Mg trailer. If the unit starts from rest on a level road with a tractive force f of 20 kN between the driving wheels of the truck and the road, compute the tension T in the horizontal drawbar and the acceleration a of the rig.

Homework Equations



Did i do my sum of forces correctly? If so, I have two unknowns and one equation. The sum of forces in the y - direction would not help. Do i use constant acceleration formulas? If so, i can't seem to figure out which one to use.


The Attempt at a Solution



F_x = ma_x

ma_x = T - f
[(20+10)*10^3]*a_x = T - 20,000
 
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aznkid310 said:

Homework Statement



The 10-Mg truck hauls the 20-Mg trailer. If the unit starts from rest on a level road with a tractive force f of 20 kN between the driving wheels of the truck and the road, compute the tension T in the horizontal drawbar and the acceleration a of the rig.

Homework Equations



Did i do my sum of forces correctly? If so, I have two unknowns and one equation. The sum of forces in the y - direction would not help. Do i use constant acceleration formulas? If so, i can't seem to figure out which one to use.


The Attempt at a Solution



F_x = ma_x

ma_x = T - f
[(20+10)*10^3]*a_x = T - 20,000
You are not noting the net forces correctly. You have to examine the net external forces acting on the truck and trailer system by drawing a free body diagram of the system. Then break up the system into its component parts (truck only or trailer only), and examine the net forces acting on those parts using free body diagrams of those parts.
It is a good idea to first look at the truck-trailer system, which apparently you are attempting to do, having correctly noted that the mass of the system is 30,000 kg. But when you look at the system as a whole, what is the net external force acting on the system? You should note that the tension in the towbar is internal to the system, and will not show up in your determination of the net force in the x direction. The next step would be to look at a FBD of the trailer only. What net force acts on it? Are you familiar with free body diagrams?
 
I don't know how to draw a picture on the computer, so I'll try to explain my FBD. In the x-direction (for the trailer), there is the force by the truck in the (+) direction, the tractive force in the (-) direction, so:

ma = F_truck - f

It appears that I am missing something, but I am not sure what. If i only examine the trailer, then the tension becomes external correct?
 
Trailer wheels are free-spinning, and exert no tractive force.
 
aznkid310 said:
If i only examine the trailer, then the tension becomes external correct?
Yes, and that is the ONLY force acting on the trailer in the horizonatl direction. But before you look at the trailer, look at the entire truck-trailer system, and note that the ONLY force acting on the system is the tractive force (friction force between the tires and road that propels the truck-trailer forward in the +ive direction) of 20,000N. Solve for the acceleration, then go back to the trailer FBD to solve for the drawbar tension. Check your work by looking at a FBD of the truck only.
 

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