How Do You Calculate the Amplitude of Combined Alternating Currents?

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To calculate the amplitude of combined alternating currents i1 and i2, the expressions are simplified to i(t) = 2.5 sin(50t) + 10.33 cos(50t). The amplitude is determined to be approximately 10.6, with the phase angle calculated using arctan(10.33/2.5), yielding about 33.8 degrees. To find the first occurrence of this amplitude, the derivative of the current function is set to zero, leading to a time value of approximately 0.00474 seconds. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding phasor addition and suggests using graphical tools for verification.
  • #31
Enochfoul said:
Thanks for all of your help and for the other guys help too. This question has been doing my head in.
You almost had the correct answer in post #1. The trick I mentioned in post #17 is probably your simplest solution. B/A=2.5/10.33. It should be a simple matter to find ## \phi ## and write out the answer. And in the form ## y=C\cos(\omega t-\phi) ## the shift is to the right for positive ## \phi ##
 
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NascentOxygen said:
It's right.

Either way, the answer should be the same.
Any chance you could have a look at the impedance question I posted. I can't decide if the final answer should be positive or negative.
 
  • #33
Enochfoul said:
Ok I've had another bash.

So If C = 2.5 sin 50t + 10.33 cos 50t
the dC/dt = 125 cos 50t - 516.5 sin 50t (diff of sin 50t is 50 cos 50t and diff of cos 50t is -50 sin 50t)
At a maximum dC/dt is 0
0 = 125 cos 50t - 516.5 sin 50t
rearrange and divide by cos 50t this give tan 50t = 2.5/10.33 giving 50t as 13.6 deg.

So 13.6 deg converted to radians would be 0.237.
0.237 ÷ 50 = 0.00474 which would be the time the amplitude of 10.6 would occur?

Using you tip of changing the graph to "Maximum of" it comes out as http://www4f.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP72722a107agdc0he8ga0000405a140d63h2172g?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=42&w=496.&h=33.

Im guessing this is correct then?
I have the same question myself and have followed it up until this point, but i am confused as to wear the value 125 and -516.5 come from?
 
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joe forrester said:
I have the same question myself and have followed it up until this point, but i am confused as to wear the value 125 and -516.5 come from?
The function of time was differentiated. The values are a result of that operation.

Differentiating trig functions sin and cos:

##\frac{d}{dt} Asin(ω t) = Aωcos(ω t)##

##\frac{d}{dt} Bcos(ω t) = -Bωsin(ω t)##
 
  • #35
gneill said:
The function of time was differentiated. The values are a result of that operation.

Differentiating trig functions sin and cos:

##\frac{d}{dt} Asin(ω t) = Aωcos(ω t)##

##\frac{d}{dt} Bcos(ω t) = -Bωsin(ω t)##

Thanks
 

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