How Do You Calculate the Coefficient of Friction in a Ramp Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of friction in a ramp experiment involving a large block ramp and a smaller block with different surface materials. The original poster describes their setup, including measurements and trials conducted to observe the sliding behavior of the block.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the complexity introduced by the ramp's angle and its effect on forces involved. Questions arise regarding the proper steps to calculate both static and kinetic friction, as well as the significance of the x and y measurements taken during trials.

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Some participants have offered insights into the complexities of the forces at play, while others are seeking clarification on the necessary steps to solve for friction coefficients. There is an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus on the approach.

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There are constraints regarding the visibility of the original diagram referenced by the original poster, which may limit the understanding of the setup for other participants. Additionally, the lack of specific weight and angle measurements is noted as a potential challenge in the calculations.

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1. Homework Statement
given: a large block ramp, a smaller block (one side wood, other side felt), and a stopwatch
refer to this picture:
http://01.edu-cdn.com/files/static/w...SLIDING_01.GIF

you don't know weight, or θ but I do have the measurements for the x and y axis

2. Homework Equations



3. The Attempt at a Solution
I did five trials each for the wood on wood side and the felt on wood side. I measured the x and the y-axis along with the time it took for the object to slide all the way across the large ramp.

1. Homework Statement

find coefficient of friction, static and kinetic

2. Homework Equations
Fnet=ma
vf=vi+at



3. The Attempt at a Solution

What I have so far:
Procedure:
1. Measure the large block ramp
2. Increase theta until the block starts moving and stop. During this process, use a stop watch to measure how long the small block takes to travel the ramp.
3. Repeat this process for both the wooden on wood and felt on wood.
Explanation and justification:
By measuring the large block, you get the distance the smaller block will travel, whether it’s wood on wood or felt on wood. The stop watch measures how long it takes. With this information, we can get acceleration, which would then lead us to calculate the coefficient of friction.

For kinetic friction, I think it's something like this:
Fnet=ma
-k=ma
ukFf=ma

Not sure on rest...
 
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This gets quite complex when you have a ramp at an angle. The angle effects how the force of gravity is resolved into a normal force causing friction and a force along the ramp causing acceleration. You might start by studying the explanation in your textbook or something like this: http://library.thinkquest.org/16600/intermediate/force.shtml
 
What would be the proper steps to solve for both the static and kinetic friction though? I took measurements of the x and y lengths of every trial.
 
I have no way of knowing what x and y are. Your diagram does not display; perhaps it is only accessible to students enrolled. Perhaps you could copy it and put it up on photobucket for us.
 

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