How Do You Calculate the Mass of a Car Using Force and Acceleration?

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The mass of a car can be calculated using the force exerted on it and its acceleration. In this discussion, a student used a bathroom scale reading of 433 N while the car accelerated from rest to 18.8 km/hr in 15.9 seconds. The correct calculation involves using the formula F=ma, where the force is the reading from the scale, and the acceleration is derived from the change in velocity over time. The final mass of the car was determined to be approximately 1251 kg, correcting earlier miscalculations.

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Homework Statement



To determine the mass of a car, a student (with a friend at the wheel) pushes the car holding a bathroom scale between himself and the car. The scale maintains a constant reading of 433 N while the car accelerates on level ground. At the conclusion of the experiement, his friend reports that the car accelerated from rest to 18.8 km/hr in 15.9 s. What was the mass of the car?

Homework Equations


a= Delta V/Delta t
f=ma
w=mg
g=9.8m/s^2

The Attempt at a Solution



a = 18.8km/hr/15.9s ------> 313m/s/15.9s = 19.7m/s^2 - > Acceleration of car.

F=ma, since the force is constant throughout the problem I assumed acceleration was constant.

W=mg ----> 422N=m(9.8m/s^2)--> m=43.06kg, is the weight.

f=ma ---> f=(43.1kg)(19.7m/s^2) = 847N

m= 847N/9.8m/s^2 = 86.4kg... incorrect.. am i doing too much ?
 
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You're on the right track, but I see two errors, and I'm not sure about one of your steps.

18.8 km/hr does not equal 313 m/s. Hint: how many seconds are there in one hour?

I don't know why you tried calculating the weight - or why you used 422N. I *think* you need to reread the problem, and visualize what they did with the scale, and what the 433N actually represents.

I believe your mass should equal 1318kg, yes?
 
p21bass said:
You're on the right track, but I see two errors, and I'm not sure about one of your steps.

18.8 km/hr does not equal 313 m/s. Hint: how many seconds are there in one hour?

I don't know why you tried calculating the weight - or why you used 422N. I *think* you need to reread the problem, and visualize what they did with the scale, and what the 433N actually represents.

I believe your mass should equal 1318kg, yes?

Correct.

OK, got to figure out how you did this.

I fixed my stupid mistakes;

v=5.22m/s
a=5.22m/s/15.1s=0.346m/s^2


Now, M=433N/0.346m/s^2--->1251kg

The 433N represents the weight of the car? W(N)=m(kg)a(m/s^2)
 
"To determine the mass of a car, a student (with a friend at the wheel) pushes the car holding a bathroom scale between himself and the car."

The car isn't on top of the scale, so it's not the weight of the car. If it were the weight of the car, then we'd just divide 433N/9.81(m/s^2). It's the amount of force required to move the car. So you did it correctly this last time, but you somehow put 15.1s into your equation, as opposed to 15.9s.
 

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