How Do You Calculate the Velocity of a Swinging Mass?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a mass attached to a swinging arm, specifically focusing on the effects of gravitational acceleration as the mass falls from an angle. Participants explore the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and the integration process involved in deriving velocity from acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to integrate acceleration to find velocity, questioning whether the integration yields angular or linear velocity. They also express uncertainty about the nature of their acceleration expression.
  • Some participants suggest considering the vector nature of velocity and acceleration, raising questions about the orientation of components and the potential use of kinematic equations as an alternative to integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. While one participant reports success using energy conservation principles, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to derive velocity from acceleration through integration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of integrating acceleration in the context of a swinging mass, with some assumptions about the forces acting on the mass and the initial conditions of the problem being discussed.

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There is an arm which is fixed at one end so the other can swing freely. At the other end there is a mass. Assuming the only force acting on the mass is gravity and it starts falling from, say, forty-five degrees from the horizontal, you must be able to figure out its velocity at any given point in its fall?

I know its acceleration at any point is g cos theta (measured from the horizontal) but I don't know how to integrate that sensibly to get a velocity.

If I integrate with respect to time do I get an angular velocity (rad/s) or a linear velocity (m/s) or what?

My g cos theta expression takes the angle into account, but it's not really angular acceleration, or is it?

Any help appreciated.
 
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You always get velocity if you integrate acceleration (and angular velocity if you integrate angular acceleration).
Note here also that velocity is a vector quantity with both an horizontal and vertical component. Acceleration is also a vector quantity, that's why you use the cos and sin functions but is it good to divide acceleration into its components, how would the orientation of those components be compared to the ground? How does that help you to find the velocity? Could you perhaps use normal kinematic equations to solve this problem and skip integration all together?
Think about these questions a bit.
 
Yup, good shout. I just managed it using the difference between initial and final potential energy as an expression for 1/2mv^2, then rearranged for v. thanks.
 
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